Nobody Is Safe

AJ Brown traded. Myles Garrett traded. We breakdown the fallout, and implications, and all the offseason chaos that comes with blockbuster moves.

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Welcome back to We're Not Experts. We're back in the cave for episode 24. Kobe.

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Yeah, Kobe. And we could have done eight, but that's weak.

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We like two four Kobe.

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Yeah, facts.

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That was after he had the heinous allegations.

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The dirt man Kobe was hey.

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Fro Kobe was on demon time.

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Mike Vrabel's kind of Kobe.

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You know, I also look, man, there's a lot of 24s that I fuck with. You know, like driving fast. Always was a big Jeff Gordon guy.

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Oh, that's crazy.

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You know? Sometimes I'll be swinging the wood, be feeling like Mickey.

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You know what I'm saying?

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There's a whole lot of 2-4s out here in this world that I like.

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I uh you got a couple big pieces of news today, huh?

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Slightly. I mean, one of them's like been like a story that, you know, we've touched on like 15 out of the 24 episodes now, but like now that there's some news official, AJ Brown traded to the Patriots. I believe it was for a 2028 first-round pick and a 2027, was it a fourth? I wouldn't the fifth. I wouldn't call that a King's ransom. I mean, if you I mean they got about as much as what they gave up for them. I mean, maybe it's crazy that they traded a was it a first round pick and a fourth for AJ Brown from the Titans. And then what, three, four years later, you get it back, you get them older and get like the almost the exact same return back?

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Yeah. Howie's a dog. And he had a down year with a bunch of drama.

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I will say it's kind of smart from a perspective of like the Patriots not having to come up off the 2027 first.

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Yeah, I'll blame him.

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You kick it down the road for a year, so like you still get to add. I mean, how do you feel about this trade? Now that like the details.

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It's probably best for both sides. I think both trades today worked out for both teams.

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Absolutely.

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I think it made sense for everybody. Focusing on this one specifically, like it makes sense, like it makes sense that the path, even if it was the 2027 first, like there's a decent chance that it's not going to be a high first round pick.

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You know, they said Mike Rabel was really spearheading the hey, let's give up a first-round pick for AJ Brown. I mean, like they like I don't think I read a report that there was like some hesitancy from the Patriots to give up a first-round pick for AJ Brown. Like they didn't want to, like, I don't think the front office wanted to give up a first-round pick for AJ Brown.

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I don't blame them for that either.

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And apparently, like Mike Vabel was like pounding the table for it.

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He pounds the table for a lot of things.

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I need Diana back.

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I mean, look, I don't I think AJ Brown realistically probably has two, maybe three good years left for you.

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Is that worth a first round pick?

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Yeah, probably for sure. If you're trying to win now, I mean, look, if you look what Stefan Diggs did in that offense.

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So you expect AJ Brown to do a lot better than that. Absolutely. He's way better. What do you think this does for the team, though? Like, what are your expectations of the Patriots now that you officially add AJ Brown?

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But you get a true, you get a true one. Right. You get a true D.

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There's somebody that can handle it.

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Stephon, Stefan Diggs, Stefan Diggs is a crash out and all.

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Right. And but AJ Brown has any of those problems in New England.

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AJ, this is true. He never had these problems. He also never had these problems in Tennessee.

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Until it was time to get paid.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Then he said, fuck Tennessee. I want to go play with Jalen Hurts.

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You think you think Mike Vrabel told him? He was like, he was like, I mean, dude, hold out. You're good enough.

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Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I do remember how pissed off I remember seeing Mike Vrabel draft night when they traded AJ Brown.

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Yeah. That was the means to an end right there.

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But I don't I don't know. So like where do you put the Patriots now in the AFC? Like, do you feel better about them now? Like, do you think that they've got potential to like go back to the Super Bowl and maybe win it this year?

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I don't think they're going back.

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Do you think they should be like a favorite at least in their division? Like, would you put them over Buffalo?

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I still don't know. Oof. I don't know if I'm putting them over Buffalo.

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He believes in Mr. Wu.

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Josh Allen's the man.

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Joshua. Mr. Wu.

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He's the man.

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He is the man. I mean, Drake May might be that guy too, though.

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Drake May might also be the man.

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We'll see if he takes that next step. Like, my thing is, is like as good of a year as Drake May had, how much better do you see Drake May but like getting this year with AJ Brown?

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What was his stylon?

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I mean, he had he was like MVP runner-up, so he went the fuck off, clearly.

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That's true. Like, I just think my thing with the Patriots. If he's the guy, he can replicate it.

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Yeah, but I don't think, you know, and I don't know how you feel about it, but like watching the playoffs, or especially in the playoffs, I don't over the course of the season, I don't I didn't think I sat there and watched New England and was like, oh man, like they if they have AJ Brown, they're winning a Super Bowl. Like I don't think that he's the difference in them. Like, I don't think AJ Brown makes them that much better of a team because their offensive line, I don't know how good it's going to be this year still.

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I would die for him.

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You know what I'm saying? And came out and well, he died, alright, but he didn't do it exactly. He ain't put up much of a fight.

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Remember the interview he said, he said, I mean, you give up, you give up a sack of game, you're gonna be working on Amazon.

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Well, buddy, I hope he's been filling out apps.

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They they do all the AI photos of Will Campbell in an Amazon uniform.

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But I mean, like, I I don't know. I'm like, like, obviously, I feel like I I feel like from a fantasy perspective, AJ Brown's back.

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Thinking, like, from a fanny not even fantasy perspective. It it's really just me thinking about what Drake May's stat line's gonna be. If I had to project it out just off the top of my head. Like adding AJ Brown. Like, I think he's like a significant upgrade from Stefan Diggs. Diggs was pretty good. I mean, he had a thousand. What do you have five, six touchdowns, seven touchdowns?

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I'm not exactly sure how many that he had.

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What did Drake May have? He probably had 4K. I think he probably hits 4K again if he didn't.

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Like I could Yeah, he had 43 basically 4,400 yards, 31 touchdowns, eight picks, 113.5 quarterback right now.

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Yeah, I probably I'm not going 3,400 yards. I would probably go 32.

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You mean 42?

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He had 42. 42, yeah.

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Did I say 32?

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No, it might have been me that fucked that up. It might have been me that fucked it up.

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But yeah, see, and that's where my problem with the deal is. Like if Drake May's doing this with Stefan Diggs and target share.

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Like, you're not gonna, I don't think you'll see like a Hunter Henry eating as much. Like you got a couple games where he went crazy. But does that make your team better? I mean, maybe.

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I mean, and I mean, I feel like it's gonna make it easier on everybody else.

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Yeah, for sure. I I think for more than anyone, like Trayvon Henderson, hell, even Ramondre, as much as I hate to say that.

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Well, Hunter Henry should have some more. I mean, it definitely makes the run game better.

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Yeah, oh, I think that's where it improves it the most. But and it was already a pretty good run game.

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Yeah. I mean Hunter's I'm hoping that Treyvon Henderson takes over like the like is more involved.

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Even if it was a even if it was a 1A, 1B situation, like it Ramondre's not a bad running back.

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I just don't know how much that I don't I don't just don't know how much I see AJ Brown raising the ceiling of of that team. It'd be different if AJ Brown was going to a team that had no wide receiver. Like, it'd be different. I would feel totally different about AJ Brown going to a different team if it was for say he was walking into like the Titans wide receiver room from last year. Right. Versus I mean the Patriots wide receiver.

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Like he's like their wide receiver course pretty nice.

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Yeah, I mean their offense is gonna look better. I just don't I just don't see it statistically speaking, I don't see it being much better than what it was.

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That's crazy.

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Well, no, I mean and with that, that means in my head, if I don't see the production being much different, I don't see the Patriots going back to the Super Bowl.

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I bet like if I like if Drake May throws for 4,200 yards, I bet AJ Brown has twelve hundred of those.

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Yeah, and I mean at that point, oh cool. Ten touchdowns.

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Like he could he could easily go he could easily go twelve hundred.

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It's just so hard for me to I just can't see the value in it. Like, I mean I can see the value in it, but I don't I don't see it raising their ceiling much, if any.

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I don't like the Patriots to repeat regard like I don't expect them to go back to the Super Bowl.

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I don't either.

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Like I didn't I don't it just really it just depends if Drake May is really the guy.

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Yeah, I mean that that ultimately that's always what it's gonna be dependent on. But at some point he's gotta just now the problem is for Drake May is I feel like it almost hurts his development as a quarterback because you're bringing in the personality that AJ Brown is, so like you clearly you see that you have to feed him. Right? So like you got a guy that you have to feed to keep him happy.

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But he's a guy that's worth feeding.

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I mean, I'm not saying that he's not, but I'm saying that like from a quarterback perspective.

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Like you're just like making it feels like you're making the argument that you should never bring in a true one.

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I mean, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm I mean, I've said consistently that bringing in an AJ Brown isn't what makes you a Super Bowl contender.

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Well, he's got one.

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I mean, the thing that I mean, yeah, but is they didn't get that until they added somebody after AJ Brown. And they also had the best defense in the league that year when they won the Super Bowl too. They did. So can we attribute that to AJ Brown?

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Hey, the Patriots defense should be a good one.

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I mean, they went they went to the Super Bowl with AJ Brown his first year there. They didn't win.

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Man.

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It seems like, oh, we need something else. We need a better run game, we need a better defense. We didn't necessarily need AJ Brown.

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Are you saying AJ Brown doesn't make it?

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I'm saying that I've been consistent in my take that like getting a superstar wide receiver is not the difference between your team winning a Super Bowl and not winning a Super Bowl.

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Man, it's a good run game.

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Defense, quarterback play. Which, I mean, and don't get me wrong, Drake May, elite. We'll see. We'll see how it plays out.

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I mean, he wasn't very elite in the Super Bowl.

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I mean, there was he had that one, he he went off in the Super Bowl at the end.

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He wasn't even very elite in the Broncos game. Like he was pretty bad.

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Yeah, but but I mean, you know, you're talking about a second-year quarterback.

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Yeah. I'm not putting I'm not holding it against him. I think it's an upgrade.

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Yeah, I mean, it's an upgrade. I just I don't know.

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If I'm the Patriots and you feel like this is what it's gonna take for you to win now, yeah, you're gonna make the move.

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We saw a team go trade somebody that can, I feel, be the difference in your team not winning the Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl. Less need, F them picks, yet again. Exactly. I think we now can even, I mean, I feel like we already agreed that. I mean, we know who's not a contender this year in the AFC. The Browns.

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Cleveland Browns.

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I will say about this trade, uh, you know, Miles Garrett for Jared Verse. Jared Verse, a first round pick, a second round pick, and a third round pick.

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A king's ransom.

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This would be That is a steep cost.

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It would be considered a King's ransom from where I'm from.

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Yeah, absolutely. I feel like, especially for a non-this may be like the biggest, like from a value of what you're giving up for one particular player, this might be like the one of the bigger draft hauls that I can recall. Back to what I said. Especially non-quarterback for sure. But I mean, even I mean, you we were talking about this earlier before we we got up here. Like, what would the trade value of Jared Verse standalone have been? If if the Rams said we're trading Jared Verse. It's absolutely two years. At least a first. Well, I mean, I feel like it's at least two firsts. It very well could be. I mean, you're talking about someone who's been a pro bowler his first two years, defensive rookie of the year. You know, he's got like eight less years on it, eight less years worth of miles on his body, still on his body and got two more years and and that fifth year option under his belt. It's one of those situations where I feel like both teams win.

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Both teams win, man. It makes sense for both teams.

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I mean, I would have liked from Graham's perspective, I would have tried to find a way to like, hey, what can we do to pair Miles Garrett on one side with Jared Verse on the other side?

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Bro, you still got Braden Fisk. You got dude, they are their defensive line, Byron Young, they're still sick.

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They are sick. I mean, they probably have they've got the best roster on the show.

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Just just say that Miles Garrett has 21 sacks again, buddy. They might be undefeated.

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Yeah, obviously, I'm not gonna go that far with it.

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I mean, I'm not saying they will. I'm just saying, like, if he was to have that type of game wrecking season on an actual good football team, like Puka might be dead, like they might not ever be throwing the ball.

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Put that defense, yeah.

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Like it could just it could be a Kyron Williams, Blake Coram show. The Rams' offense could become just lethargic and hard to watch just because they defense. Yeah, right.

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Defense should be great. And and you know, look, everybody talked about the Ty Simpson draft, and it's just like, oh my gosh, you could have just waited and got something to help them this year. Don't need it. He had a plan.

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He had a plan the whole time.

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Yeah, it's it's kind of what it feels like.

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It's like Well, no, did you see? I mean, they've been talking. Apparently, they've been in trade talks for a while. Uh, did you see what Andrew Berry said? He actually he made he made a pretty good quote or a comment about the whole thing.

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I didn't hear it. What'd he say?

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He was just saying that, you know, it's something it's it's crazy to trade somebody that you thought was gonna wear the same helmet his entire career. I get it, he was a cornerstone franchise piece.

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He also said that he was going from, I believe he said he's going from Cleveland to Canton was the phrase.

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Yeah.

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Which, you know, unless you're going back to Cleveland sign a one-day contract.

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I'm so glad they did this. I feel so good for him.

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For Miles Garrett. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you want to say somebody like the Browns did the right thing.

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They're not gonna be good this year.

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No, for sure. And I mean, here's the thing.

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And if he goes for 22 sacks because he's the sickest to ever do it, and it's a 22 sacks for four wins on the season, like, come what are we doing?

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Yeah, you're playing for nothing.

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That's tough, dude.

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I will say, I feel like this puts a ton of pressure on the Rams now, though.

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Oh, they're plus 600 to win the Super Bowl now. That's it's insane. I actually think that might be like that might be still good value. Yeah, like that might still be good value. Man, I just like you, I might just go put that in just because like Yeah, I mean, and guess what?

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I'm gonna die on the hill. Look, I'm not gonna switch my pick. I'm on the record, I've been rolling with the Iceman. Hey, I'm gonna keep rolling with him because I just I don't know why I feel this way so strongly about Caleb Williams, but I I don't I'm just gonna they're gonna find a way.

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He's got a world.

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I mean, he's just he's just thrown some of the greatest passes I've ever had.

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Oh, he had one the other day in OTA, so I was like, alright. I was like, all right, I gotta I gotta slow down. I was like, I can't be watching this stuff thinking he's gonna be doing this every game. Bro, it was a 67-yard pass on the run.

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Bro, he's just throwing some absolute dots.

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Bro, it was insane.

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Fuck OTAs. I'm I'm I ain't I'm looking past all that shit still. I'm never gonna buy into OTAs.

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It's hard. No, you say that. I watched some can't I watch some Carnell Tate footage. I'm like, I go, all right, slow down, man. I'm getting caught up in the hype.

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It's easier to say, it's easier to do that with your fan of your team. I was like, man, see, when I when I see such shit like that happening on my unit, I'm like, ah, fuck. Whoever's guarding him is weak as fuck.

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No, I watched it, I was like, man, Carnell Tate's looking like a 90 catch, 1,300 yards, nine, ten touchdowns kind of guy.

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You know, he's gonna have a big year, but but so so now that now that Miles Garrett's been traded, let's talk a little bit about the trades and what that like a little bit more in depth on the Cleveland side of it.

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It's a great trade for the Bryant.

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It's a great trade for the longevity of the Bradford. Absolutely. I think the thing that I it it sucks because like I have a feeling that Andrew Barry's like setting this team up for so much success and just got fucked so bad at the quarterback's position that he's gonna end up losing his job. Because I mean he's made some pretty great moves for them.

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I you know what? I agree, but I don't know if they're gonna end up firing him.

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I mean, I mean you can I mean he's been the GM that gets.

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Because it's not like it's not like he's drafted bad.

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No, he hasn't. Like he hasn't drafted the bad. He's gonna end up ha falling on the sword from the owner fucking signing Deshaun Watson to the worst deal in NFL history.

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That's that is a pretty big mistake.

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Yeah, but but that wasn't that was a that was a owner thing.

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Well, that's true too. I I just feel like if you're gonna fall on that sword, you should have done it early. Like if you were gonna like fire him because of something like that.

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They're gonna bring somebody in and just gonna unravel all the good things that they do. Cleveland's got a lot of draft at Capitol now.

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Yeah, and they have a guy that's been fairly successful in the draft. I would uh I don't know.

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It'd be interesting to see what they do. I love for Cleveland. I mean, like, you know, let's just say this is definitely better with them getting Jared Verse back as well as just picks. And who's to say, I mean, I now don't hear what I'm not saying when I say this. But like realistically, let's just say Jared Verse becomes a 15-year sack a year guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

It's uh it's an incredible trade.

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Miles Garrett's 31 years old, like you you got a bunch back, and not only that, you don't get it all at once. Like you get a you get you get Jared Verse now, then next year, here you go, you get an extra first, and the year after that, you got an extra second. The year after that, you got an extra third. So you're gonna be able to like stack those onto each other a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

It's a great move.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

It's a great move. You're gonna have yourself some options. Obviously, like long term, I mean, I what do they win? One less game without Miles Garrett now. I mean, you know, when you're in Cleveland, I mean, how many wins does Miles Garrett get attributed to on a team like Cleveland?

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Yeah, probably like one.

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You know, the difference in him in a place like Cleveland versus what the impact that I'm expecting him to have on the Rams, like, it's night and day difference.

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Yeah, like I said, dude, it's so good for him. It's good for the Browns. The Browns made the right move.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

What if Jared vs.

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And Jared versus an Ohio? He's dude, hey, look, he's an Ohio kid. That's not the place of Ohio you want to go. Yeah, he's from.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

You're like, if you want to go to Ohio, you're like, give me to Cincy. At least I got Joe Burrow.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

No, well, I mean, probably. Sometimes I at least have Jamar. There's nowhere in Ohio anybody's asking to go. Just ask Joe Kim Noah.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Who the fuck wants to go to Cleveland on vacation?

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Who wants anywhere? Who would want to go to Cincinnati? Ohio is a state as a whole.

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Someone very blue collar. They want to go there.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

Go watch a Reds game. I, you know, shout out to the shout out to the Browns. I think they made a great move. Shout out to the Rams. They'll never have a first-round pick. Don't need it. Don't need it.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Look, I would, if you're telling me you got to trade your first round pick most years and you're just going to acquire, like, fuck taking shots on prospects and whatnot. Especially when you're going to get somebody who's clearly the best in their position. You look at their roster, they very well could be like number one offense, number one defense.

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Yeah.

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This team's not fair. You're telling me you've got the offensive player of the year, the MVP. Well, you have a potential offensive player of the year in Puka Nakua. Right. You've got a Puka Nakua. On the opposite side of him, you've got a should be probably a maybe a first ballot Hall of Famer in Devontae Adams.

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And another one throwing in the ball.

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You've got the reigning. MVP, you look on the other side. Oh, we got our defense that was really good last year. We replaced our best pass rusher with the best pass rusher. Maybe this game's ever seen.

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We got we went and got a dog as a corner.

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We went and got an all-pro corner. Not only that, you got another Pro Bowl caliber receiver on or uh corner on the other side and Jalen Watson.

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Yeah, man. Shout out to Les Knee. It's gonna be hard. I hope Mike.

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People are gonna be looking at the Rams like they're the Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Nah.

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And then Caleb Williams pulls up.

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I'm Wimby. I don't that was generational hate watching. I don't know. I don't know if I've ever been more excited for a Western Conference finals to get the game.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Yeah, but I'm saying from I'm saying from the thing about, you know, the OKC hate watch when you compare, like people were saying, oh, nobody's ever gonna beat this team.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Yeah, maybe, but I'm saying that I like Matthew Stafford way more than I like Shea Gildis Alexander software. I don't know.

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I don't know if I could handle a whole lot of flopping as a quarterback.

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Yeah, like I can't I can't hate him the same.

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Yeah.

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I've always liked stafford, so it's like I don't know if I'll ever be able to hate him.

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See, and I'm not like Shay I've gained more respect for Matthew Stafford in the past couple of seasons than I've had like the entire the entirety of his career. Because I gave I gave Stafford a lot of hate for the fact that like everybody, and I'll still say this, I still believe it. If Matthew Stafford was as good as everybody said he was going to be, they would have had more success in Detroit than what they had.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

You remember you remember when they had Marvin Jones Jr.?

SPEAKER_02 23:40

He was sick.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Oh my god. Golden Tate. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Was sick. Like you they should have had if more success than what they had. Were they playing two playoff games?

SPEAKER_01 23:52

They didn't have Dan Campbell yet. They didn't have a culture changer come in there yet.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

That is true.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

They just had a guy.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

What do you think Dan Campbell would have done with Matthew Stafford his entire time?

SPEAKER_01 24:02

He'd be a Super Bowl champion.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

I'm pretty sure he played with him.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Did he?

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Dan Campbell played for the Lions.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

I know. I'm just saying I didn't I don't know when he played. No way. John Kitten, though. He played with John Kitna. I'm playing. Didn't John Kidna play for the That's a pool. That's a pool. That's an elite pool right here. Joey Harrington. John. That's an elite pool. Shout out. Shout out to the Rams. I wish the Titans could do some shit like that. We should have gone and got Miles Garrett. Would you have traded would you have traded Fimi? Two first and a third.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Fuck yeah. Hell yeah. But you're talking about Phil Femi. Yeah, he certainly ain't no Jerry Burns.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

I said, but I said two first and a third.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

Yeah, absolutely. Two first and a second?

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Three three first.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

And Femi.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

I mean, I probably wouldn't if I'm the Titans, because like, I mean, you're just not there.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

I mean, if you go and get Miles Garrett, though.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Yeah, I don't think Miles Garrett would have taken the Titans to that this is a Super Bowl contending team.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Would they have been uh eight-win team? I'm just trying to find out. I'm just trying to find out.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Maybe, but I mean I think the Titans are going to be a seven, eight-win team, ten-win team, eight, seven or eight-win team this year.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

So you think like if you put like a Miles Garrett on a Tennessee Titans, would they be a 10-win team? Like, would he make that big of a difference?

SPEAKER_02 25:34

I don't think not in Tennessee. Just because we don't like have we don't have the infrastructure in place. Okay. Like I feel like you give up those three first round picks or whatever the cost it is to go get somebody that when you have that infrastructure to win there. Like I'm certainly not saying, okay, our window's going to be opening up because we have what we're expecting to be a franchise quarterback that we've added around to. Like, I'm not trading for Miles Garrett, and I'm saying, okay, I might be an eight-win team, 10-win team, or eight-win team year one with Garrett. Second year, we might have, you know, 10 wins. You know what I'm saying? Like you, you, you go get you a player of that caliber and you give up those kind of assets when you're like on the cusp. Let me ask a question. Like a team like, for example, a team like the Bears. Or a team like, I mean, obviously the Rams. Oh, the Bears would have been a person. I'll even go and say another. A team like the Ravens, a team like the Cowboys. Like those teams that are there. Here's another one. Sleeper. Obviously, I don't think the Browns would have ever done this, but what if they would have traded them to the Bengals?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Oh, the Bengals. Yeah, it would have been a great.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Or the Ravens. I mean, like, when you're a team that's on the cusp that already has like that kind of ceiling that you're just like, okay, we get a player like that, and he puts us to where that we're the favorite. Like if you're then you give up those kind of actions.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Like if you're the Houston Texans, like if you known that like they you could have maybe traded Daniil Hunter and a couple first and a third for Miles Garrett.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Even then, I probably wouldn't have done that in Houston situation because you're I don't think Miles Garrett puts them on the cus.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Yeah, but they're out. Yeah, but that's not the point because they already think they're on the cus.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Yeah, and I don't know why, because their quarterback's fucking CJ Stroud.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

See, yeah, but they believe that's not the point. They believe in CJ Stroud.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

I'm not sure they do believe in CJ Stroud.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

You don't believe in CJ Stroud. I don't believe in CJ Stroud, but they believe. They believe CJ Stroud's the guy. You saw they asked him if he was depressed because he cut his hair.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Because he cut his hair. Yeah, that's crazy as fuck.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

I'm just saying if I was a team like the Texans and you got maybe the second sickest DN in the league, and you're like, and I think my biggest thing for the Texans is it's like the op, it's like, here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

You look at it from that perspective.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah, but how's the Neil Hunter 28, 29? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Yeah, but you're gonna turn around, you're gonna pay Miles Garrett $40 million. You're gonna turn around, you just pay Will Anderson Buku money. Now you're gonna have to turn around and pay Stroud Buku money. You pay those three kinds of players, you're not gonna be able to afford to have anything else around.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Man, you gotta go to CJ. You gotta go to CJ Stroud because he's depressed. You gotta take a pay cut.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

25 top.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Look, and we'll make it short. We'll give it, we'll make it a one-year, we'll give it, we'll make it a one year with a team option. That way, if we if you're like middling and you're not great, we'll pick up the team option. We'll have another okay year. And if you're you know, if you're like great the first year, we can just re-sign you to a big deal.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Yeah. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. Every no nobody in the NFL does that.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

I know. Because they want the they'd rather get they want to get paid. Yeah, they do. They want the bag.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

You'll find somebody, it'll eventually happen. Tom Brady was like that. There'll be another one that comes along.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

He's already here. He's already here. His name's Pat Rick.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Patrick.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Pat Rick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah, torn ACL.

unknown 29:12

He's back.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

He's the type of guy that says, you know what, I'm off of torn ACL. I just tore my ACL. Let's restructure my deal so I can make a little less. Just so I can prove myself.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

So I can go and get Kenneth Walker.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

That's what a winner would do.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

A guy that's never really been the guy. But we're gonna pay him like he's been the guy.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Some some people think that Kenneth Walker's about to be like a top five running back this year.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Who?

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Eli.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

I mean, it's possible. I don't think I'm gonna. That's the ceiling.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

I don't think it is.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

That's the ceiling?

SPEAKER_02 29:49

I don't think it is.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

But the floor is also like RB20.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

He's gonna have some real duds.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

He very well could.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

And he better hope that Rasheed Rice doesn't try to take him out.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

What in a car? They don't pick me up from my house.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Don't go to ride. Don't go and smoke a blunt with Rasheed Rice.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Definitely don't do that. He's already in jail for it. Hey, quick question. If he was to get caught smoking weed again, what would happen?

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Uh, it'd be another probation violation. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

So he'd just go back to jail.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Well, they probably like, you know, at that point they'd be like, all right, we clearly need to like give you your full sentence for what you did.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Oh my god. Could you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 30:35

I mean, multiple probations violations has gotta be something serious.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Man.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

It's gotta be. Is that a felony? No, we gotta ask AI. Ask a felon. Ask a felon. When you violated your probation, did you become a felon again?

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Multiple violations, how does that impact you?

SPEAKER_01 30:54

We should tweet. We should tweet Rasheed Rice and ask him. He'll see it when he's gonna be able to get it.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

He'd pull up on us. He'd be up here in about three hours.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

He would you think he'd shoot us? Nah, he'd probably fucking hit us with his car. Oh my god. That'd be terrible to see. He kind of Henry Ruggs us.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

That'd be a catch me in traffic.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Oh my god. I didn't mean that. Henry Ruggs. I didn't mean that. He got denied probation.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Or parole?

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Parole, yeah. Tough.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

It's kind of sad for him.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

I feel like he's a guy that was actually pretty good. Like he's one of those guys that's probably like he wouldn't do it again. You know? Like, I don't think he would do it again.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Hell no. It's over though. His life's over.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

He wanted to go play football. Man, people were like, yeah, should somebody take a chance on him? He's been staying fit. Yeah, like you stay in prison. You stay in NFL shape in prison. I mean laughs around the yard.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

The saddest shit was those videos, like when it right after it happened and Nick Saban got asked questions about it. You know, Nick Saban had some wisdom to throw on it.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Man, I think that they, I mean, everybody spoke like about his character. They were like so high.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, I know. Nick Saban was like, he was always a great kid and blah, blah, blah. But I'm just that was a crazy ass situation.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

He was fast on the field, he was fast on the road.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

What is it? Why do people gotta speed?

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Did he he originally committed to Georgia?

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Oh my god. You're not gonna know what this is, but I was watching an IndyCar NX NXT the other day, and they have a cat that's from Athens, Georgia.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

He's he chose the right profession.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

He went to the University of Georgia. I was like, oh my god, tell me it's not the most fitting. It's not the most fitting thing you've ever heard of.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

He's already a professional.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Yeah, he got a test. It was just Georgia was his test. He made it to the professionals now. Man. He went to college for speeding. That's crazy. Well, brother, I think. Is that all you got?

SPEAKER_02 33:10

That's all I had, man. Just wanted to talk a little. Well, we had our fancy draft.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

We did. We can hit on that real quick. You made out. You feel like you made out.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

I feel like I came away way better than what I was expecting to consider. I made a bunch of dirtbag moves just to draft players. Sometimes, look, I'm a man who has a stable full of horses.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

You got adored by Carnell Tate.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

I feel like now that I have accumulated a stable of horses, that it's time to start breeding them. Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

So so now I'm like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Talking about grown men.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

I'm talking about horses in the stable.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Anyways, you know, so I feel like now I need to be, I need to be like a I look at myself as like a, you know, uh, like an owner for like the horses that are in the Kentucky Derby. You know, there's always just like coming up, coming up, coming up. Pause.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Maybe we should in the fine.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

But Eddie started to touch.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

I got infatuated. I got infatuated with Carnell Tate for one.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Yeah. Trade of the league neighbors, and then turned around and was like, What a great trade.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

What a great trade. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Bro, there's some animosity in that locker room now. We're gonna have a race war.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

They're gonna have a race war in there over Jackson Dart. But you see what Marlon Humphrey said? Oh my god. He said, I mean, most of everybody voted for him. I don't know why they act like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:56

And then Adul Car is like, I mean, you know, we good. I just want him to know when, like, you know, he he can feel how he feels, but I'm allowed to feel how I feel too.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

In that linebacker room, I would be very careful how he spoke. He is 100% expendable. Man. Brother, I'm telling you, if if Arvell Reese, if Arvell Reese ended up being sick.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

The problem with Arvell Reese is that concerns me is he is he gonna be smart enough.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Man. That's true. Hell, the only thing he can read is a playbook. They'll simplify it for him. Look, if that's what it takes to like get the best out of him, then so be it. I'm just saying, like, he could 100% be expendable. Man. If he ended up being a partner. I don't like I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Like, I don't care that you spoke your mind or whatever, but I mean, just you gotta understand like who you're like it's to me to say this, but it's what makes it worse is like that shit getting out doing that for the media. Right. Say you said that shit to him in person, that should have been good enough.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

Yeah, like that's supposed to be your boy.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Like even if you're beefing, like why would you take it to the media?

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Yeah, because that's just gonna make it worse.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

You know what that is, bro? Real shit. You know what that is? Some hoe shit. That's some ho shit. Man, that is some absolute hoe shit. He I hope he got shamed. I hope they were like, I hope they're like, bro, what the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Nah, they didn't, bro. Everybody in that locker room was probably like, yeah, Jackson, you can't be walking out with Trump.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

It's just like it's just crazy to me, because it's like he's the franchise. Like he's literally the franchise.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

And they're gonna pick, they're like, all right, one of y'all gotta go. We got too much beef. We can't get over that. Who's out of here?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Like he's that guy.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

It's not gonna be Jackson Dark.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

You gotta hope that he sucks.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Man, that's your only chance.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

That's your only chance. You gotta hope he fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Well, oh, you know, now that you done we've talked about the Johns a little bit, I got another little piece of news to end this on. How do you feel about uh Odell Beckham returning to the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Who cares? What the fuck? That's what you wanted to end this on? You could have just ended the pod. That's not even a news about it.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

No, no, man. People are talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

I would have never, I would have, oh dude, I promise you, I would have never brought that up.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

You don't think Odell plays, right? Like he didn't actually play. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

I bet Juju makes the team before he does.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

Did they sign Juju too?

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Yeah, and Braxtonberry.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

They signed three receivers today.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Oh my god, they're going crazy. Hey, bro.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Malik Neighbors is he, yeah, he might be. Why is he doing that? Why do we have a dude who's recovering who just had a setback?

SPEAKER_01 37:47

It's good for his recovery.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

I mean, I'm sure. I mean, it also is running a risk. I mean, how many times have we played basketball outside in your driveway and you walk out with a with an ankle that's the size of your head?

SPEAKER_01 38:01

Yeah, but that's okay because I get to misswork. He doesn't need to miswork. Yeah. He doesn't need to miswork because he makes millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

Right. Yeah. It's just signing three of them gives me real concern about neighbors.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

But I mean, obviously they had no wide receiver, really. It was three bums. Man. Like let's.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

Braxton Berrios. Odell.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Well, is Odell's been out of the league for what, two years now?

SPEAKER_01 38:30

Like there's it's three guys that could very well get cut in three weeks.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Facts. They're gonna get a good prognosis on neighbors and be like, all right, y'all are out of here.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

They probably also, I don't know this, but they probably also brought in a shit ton of undrafted free agent wide receivers.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Like why didn't they just draft a receiver?

SPEAKER_01 38:49

They did. I mean they drafted Malachi Fields.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

I mean, earlier. Like, why didn't they go get a guy?

SPEAKER_01 38:56

They think they did. I just told you. They should they could have got a Jordan Tyson. There's there's some hype around they they very well could have. They took Arville Reese, though. Um yeah, I mean they decided that they needed another pass rusher because they knew Abdul Carter was a risk.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Bro, wasn't there a story that came off came out last year about Abdul Carter doing some nefarious activity in a meeting?

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Oh yeah, he was beaten off.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

He was watching porn in a meeting.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Yeah, but oh my god, I wish we had the pod then. Oh, that's I do remember that.

SPEAKER_03 39:35

Hey, we would have had a ball with that.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

That man was watching porn in a team eating.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Man, with a room full of dudes all pissed off.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Matter of fact, we can break this down before we hop off here. Because this, to be honest with you, like that's that's really gay as fuck.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Nuts.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Like, bro, it's suspect as hell.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

Hey, bro, my man's like, man, don't nothing turn me on more than a fucking turn.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

And then this is what I need to know is how did you get caught? Did somebody walk up behind you and see it? Did you like forget your volume?

SPEAKER_03 40:16

He just played and he just he just turned that shit on and the beat through.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

And then another thing, how did the media find out?

unknown 40:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Who went and told the media they're like, damn, bro? Abdul Carter just got caught watching porn in a team meeting. So, like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 40:36

I'm supposed to be taking a taking advice from this guy about fucking speaking your mind about politics.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

He didn't even speak his mind, he just introduced him. Who gives a fuck? No, I'm talking about Abdul Carter. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, like, why does he care so much? Because, bro, it's the it's we're in a woke society, bro. Like, Jesus Christ, bro. Like, you're getting paid millions of dollars to get to play the game.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

We live in a world where how you feel is not nearly as important as how everybody else feels.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Yeah, it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, if I was Jackson Dart, I'd have been like, hey, bruh, fuck off. I'm sure he didn't say that because he wants to be a leader, and he shouldn't if he wants to be a leader. I mean, it's not like Abdul Carter wouldn't be a worthy player to have on the roster.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

I think part of the issue with Jackson Dart coming out and going Trump is some would say that refer to Jackson Dart as someone who wishes he was black.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

And that's Yeah, but like what if I told you, like, what if what if I told you you got paid $250,000?

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Look, you pay me $250, I'll go fucking, I'll go introduce fucking Hitler. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Hell no. Hell no. Now, I mean, look, I would, I mean, if you we were super famous and everybody hated Trump and I knew it was gonna label our pods sometimes. And they offered me 250 grand, I'm gonna come to you, I'm like, hey bro, would you mind if I wouldn't introduce him for 250K? I know you being my boy.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

I'm gonna tell you go get the money on.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

You're gonna be like, bro, who gives a we're gonna have 250k? Like, we're straight.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Yeah, but we're not rich as fuck. If I'm if I'm Jackson Dark got a you know good side, good, nice signing bonus, the future of a franchise probably gonna make 30, 40 million dollars in a couple of years.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

He's one good year of football away from having a major deal. Yeah, forever. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

For always having a shot.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

Yeah, he'll always, if he's you know, if he flames out after this next year, like if he's great this year and then he's average the rest of the time.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

We can bring him back. We saw what he could do.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

Yeah, right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Like Daniel Jones is still getting it back.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Like, hey. People still want Kirk Cousins. Hey. Daniel Jones is out at OTAs, brother.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

You're telling me Daniel Jones is playing week one again?

SPEAKER_01 43:04

I'm just letting you know Daniel Jones is at OTAs. Chucking the rock around the he's throwing the yard, he's throwing the pill around the yard.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

He's not gonna be here, bro.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

I'm just letting you know.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

He's not gonna be here.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

I'm just letting you know. Patrick Mahomes is off the ball.

SPEAKER_03 43:21

They're gonna bring Daniel Jones out from the Achilles like how Minnesota did with Carson Wentz. Like, we don't want to play. Like, we do not want to play Anthony Richardson.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

So we need you to play. He looks yoked. You see him. I bet shit. I mean, you know, he's preparing him for tight end.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Fullback.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Running back.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

He's too big to be a running back.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Running back.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

What is he like? 6'5, 6'6.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Yeah, hell yeah. Running back. It's a mountain of a man. It's gonna be a hard time.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

He can throw the ball really far.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

He just the halfback pass is gonna be an incredible.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

No, it's gonna be it's gonna be worse than it would because Anthony Richardson's not gonna complete it.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Nah, dude, his D passes were nice. It was just when he had to throw it under 15 yards. Anything over the middle wasn't an option. He was not a good intermediate.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Anthony Richardson's fucking terrible.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Yeah, not a fan of it.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

And now that he's made the pot, I think we've we're at a good stopping point.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

We could have stopped at Odell Beckham. We could have stopped at Odell Beckham.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

It was the Eddy.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

It was the Eddy. That's it. That's episode 24.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Shout out Kobe, Jeff Gordon, Miguel Cabrera, all the other dope 24s out there.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

You named two of the worst 24s I could think of.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Bro, you don't fuck with Jeff Gordon?

SPEAKER_01 44:51

I fucking hate Jeff Gordon.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

You don't fuck with Mickey?

SPEAKER_01 44:54

I liked Miguel Cabrera.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

Oh, you ain't fuck with Jeff Gary.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

I ain't fuck with Jeff Gordon, though. I was, you know, I'm a Dale guy.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

Which one?

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Earnhardt brother. The intimidator. The OG? Yeah, number three. Threes in the sky, brother. He's number three on the track, but number one in your heart.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

There's a guy I watch on Facebook that always makes jokes about Dale.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

Dale's the man.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

Who, me?

SPEAKER_01 45:20

All right, man. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

As always, game. We appreciate you. Like, share, subscribe, holler at your boys, and we'll see y'all on the next one.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Man, to 25 we go.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

To 25 we go.