May Football Delusion

We overanalyze strength of schedule, react to the league's international takeover, and talk Breece Hall getting paid-all while fully embracing the May football delusion.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

We're live from the cave. Episode 21. We are the eve of the schedule release. Man. Some things have already been revealed. And we don't give a fuck about any of those overseas games. Some of the matchups are actually kind of intriguing for me. Yeah, Brown Saints that get you going.

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No, not that one.

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Oh. What about the Jags and whoever the fuck they take to London? No, that's not it. Well, that's the majority of them. The Cowboys and Ravens in Brazil? The fact that it's in Brazil's disgusting.

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You don't like that? What about intrigue you? Not at all. Does the Eagles in Jacksonville in London?

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It's not the matchup that doesn't excite me. It's the fact that it's being played overseas. These guys, their internal clocks are gonna be fucked. The games are never great. Yeah, I can see that.

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Yeah.

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It's just trash to put great games over in a place where you know the great game probably isn't gonna happen.

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I mean, there is a really good matchup that I am looking forward to. What? The Patriots lines in Germany. I'm cool on it.

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Yeah, like on paper, it's a great game. But the fact that it's being played in Germany is not great. You're not you don't want to wake up early, like 8 30 on a Sunday.

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Is the fact that there's a early, like another window.

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Yeah, like I get to wake up early. Like, you know, I wake up early regardless, but I get to wake up early, get, you know, we're straight into it. By the time I've brushed my teeth and I'm ready for the morning, like boom, football's on.

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See, my biggest thing with it is is most of the time I forget that those games are at 8 30 in the morning and I wake up and it's you know, usually on Sundays, I like to sleep in. So I wake up at like 10 o'clock and I'm like, oh shit.

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You've missed the first half.

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Yeah. Can't get a bed in unless I want to go dirtbag and be locked. What is can't get a bed in.

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Those are night before.

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I always try to I always try to to start with a always try to start like with the early window and roll those games like, you know, 8 30, 12. It'll be easy. Evening window, night game, Monday. It'll be easy now that we're straight better.

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No more parlays. We're just straight betting. That's that's that's what we do now, man. It'll it'll be, you know, what is it, 16 early games? Is that what they no, that ain't right. Eight early games, my bad. Eight, nine early games. We'll be able to straight bet them all. I uh before we get into the the strength of schedule, we can congratulate Brees Hall for being stuck in hell for the rest of his career. Man. But shout out to you, brother. You got a bag. He said he cried. He got he cried. He got paid as a running back. Something to cry about. I said, well, when I heard that he cried, I think that I would probably cry too if I knew I was never gonna win anything, but I collected a bag. He's here for the money, not for the not for the desired. He probably called Garrett Wilson and said, brother, I got paid too. We're gonna be bad forever.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

It's funny that you say that because on a serious note, the Jets offense has some potential.

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Yeah. One day, Kate Klubnick. Man, it's not even Justin Butler's favorite quarterback of the draft. Absolutely not. You did I don't remember exactly, but did you say he wasn't gonna get drafted? I did say that he was not gonna get drafted. But he didn't just get drafted. He got drafted in the fourth round. Yeah, it's uh that's disturbing. Although it's a day three pick, it's an early day three pick.

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I mean, there I mean, he'll have a chance for sure. But the problem is if the Jets are bad, they're definitely gonna take a quarterback early if there's one that's worth fuck.

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All right, let's get into these strengths of schedules here. I got the list here, so I I got us. There's a couple things that concern me. If you're a Bears fan, I would be concerned. If if you're a Dolphins fan, I feel horrible for you. Cardinals, Raiders, I feel bad for all three of those teams.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

So, yeah, I mean, my thing with that is is when you look at the strength of schedules, especially when you talk about the Bears and how tough theirs is, they're a good team. So I feel like the difference in them having a harder schedule. Like, they might not be win as many games as they did last year, but this is still a 10-11 win football team.

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It's a tough division too to go along with the tough schedule.

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The Dolphins those other teams still have to play tough schedules as well.

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The Dolphins might go undefeated in the wrong direction.

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They're going winless. And see the Packers, they have the fourth hardest schedule.

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Yeah. Tied to the city. The Vikings.

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They have a top ten schedule.

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Part of that, part of that's because their division's tough.

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Right. So it's like they're not like you say that you don't feel good about the Bears, but like everybody in that division outside of the lines has a kind of a tough schedule. Yeah. How'd that happen?

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I guess that's what happens when you finish last. They got blessed. Teams that got blessed, the Browns, they got blessed. Easiest strength of schedule. The Saints, the Bengals, the other two at the at the top three.

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And and good for them because I feel like all three of those teams, well, I say all three. The Bengals and the Saints could make a playoff push this year.

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I absolutely, I think I'm gonna plant my flag there.

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The schedule definitely helps for the Bengals.

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I'm gonna plant my flag here now and go ahead and say the Bengals are a playoff team.

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Yeah.

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If Burrow's healthy, yeah, absolutely. I could I mean their offense is just so good. It's sick. They're I mean, they were almost a playoff team.

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I think the Saints, when you look at that division, you know, a lot of people are down on the Bucs after last year's collapse. Are they the favorites? Who? The Bucs? No, I think the Saints. I think it's the No, I think the Panthers might be.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

That's disgusting. I would be willing to bet all my money that the Panthers don't win that division. Why? Like, why do you why do you hate the Panthers so much? Their defense should be nice, though.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

I mean, that's I mean, that's big. They probably got the best defense in that division. They got a they got a BY9 problem.

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Bro, Bryce Young took them to the playoffs last year. It's cute. That's cute, brother. That's cute. The Titans clocked in at uh, what is it, the eighth easiest schedule? How's that make you feel as a Titans fan?

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It makes me feel solid. I mean, there's still some there's still some matchups that I don't like.

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I've read that they should make that the Jets and the Titans week one so Robert Salah can get his revenge as a head coach.

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I would like that. I would like that. That'd be a good that'd be a good way for the Titans to start their season. Let's play another bad team.

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Let me ask you a question. Seriously. If the Titans lose that game, how does that make you feel? I mean, it's just week one. No.

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I mean, if you would have asked a Patriots fan after week one how they felt about their season, what would you have thought?

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They wouldn't have felt great.

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Right, right.

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So and Ravens probably felt good, though. Geno Smith. They thought they had a guy. The resurrection. Turns out they don't. It was the sacrifice.

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The sacrifice for the first pick. Bro, imagine winning week one and then winning one more game the entire season. That's tough. And it was the Tennessee Titans.

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Oof. It's not good look on us. Nah. So you have no concerns about the Bears. Do you think the Bears are going to be a pretty good team? Let's see. The Bills got the eighth toughest schedule. No concerns there, I don't think. Let's see.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

So just looking at this, uh, real quick. Let's tell me, just looking at the teams and their strength of schedule.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Tell me who you think now is going to be AFC, NFC playoff teams. I think you're going to see Rams, Seahawks are going to be back. Absolutely. I think the Commanders have a good chance. There might be three teams out of that. It might be Rams, Seahawks, 49ers all back in the playoffs again. I can see that. Cowboys could be there. I think they made some uh drastic improvement. The Eagles got a pretty easy strength of schedule.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah, but not all of these teams can make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

You're right. You're right. I mean, I'm not going to name one through, what is it, one through seven? Yeah. I'm not going to name one through seven. That's insane. You don't want to make a prediction? Fuck it. You want me to go who's going to be the number one seed to the No, I mean you don't have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

I just, you know, just who you think are going to be the seven teams in each conference based off of like the strength of schedule and what these teams have done in the offseason.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

And I'll start. I'll start with the AFC. Alright. We'll go, we'll go. I think that the Texans are in the playoffs. There's one. I think that Broncos. S2 Chargers. S3 Bills. Patriots. What is that? Six? Five five? You got Chargers. Would you say the Chiefs hindering on Patrick Mahomes' health? Even though he says he's gonna be back. I'm gonna go ahead and put the Chiefs in there. And then normally it would be the Steelers, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:25

But that's not only one team out of that division that can make the playoffs now.

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I'm going Bingles. I'll go Bingles over the Ravens. You don't love the Jesse Minter?

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Which is crazy. Which is crazy because I remember I remember you being the big Ravens. They should be the favorite to win the Super Bowl. Because of a Max Crosby trade, and then they turn around and say, We got Trey Hendrickson. And they and and you know now all of a sudden you don't like this team to even make the playoffs?

SPEAKER_01 11:01

The Raiders, the Raiders, the right, I mean the Raiders made a great trade there. They made a great trade for Max Crosby.

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They traded him and then traded them back.

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They got him. I don't know, man. That's tough. If there was a team I was gonna take out, I like the Bengals because they got an easy strength of schedule. Like you look at the numbers and you're like, ooh, that looks good. The Bengals should be better on defense. Their offense is always dynamic.

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I don't think that three teams from the AFC West make it.

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You don't think so? Who's the odd man out? You gotta like the Broncos. I would assume that you think.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Why do I have to like the Broncos? Have you seen have you seen Bo Nick's list? That's a fair point. It does look kind of rough. And you're talking about Patrick Mahomes potentially not being here week one, yada yada yada. Like Bo Nick's is like currently still having procedures.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Marvin Mims came out and said that they expect to win the Super Bowl.

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That's very possible. I don't know, man. The AFC's tough. The AFC is tough. Because like there's so many teams that I can see going like changing. Like I'm not sold on Houston. I'm like CJ Stroud. Yeah, I mean that offense.

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It wasn't their offense that got them there last year, though.

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But you know, at some point, uh you don't expect you like you expect Houston's defense to be great year over year, but like defense has so much variance year over year.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I think their defense got. That's true. Didn't they? Weren't they missing like Brandon Graham?

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So I just think that you're expecting, which I'm not saying that it won't, Houston's defense being and and Denver's defense being just as good as it was last year. And that may not necessarily be the case.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

I would expect the Broncos defense to take the step back rather than the the Texans. That's fair. I mean that's a fair assessment. I just the Texans lost nothing on defense. They only they gained. They gained a good safety in Reed Blankenship. I just do we believe in CJ Stroud. Well, I know I don't. I don't believe in CJ Stroud necessarily, but I haven't believed in CJ Stroud since his rookie year. They were still a playoff team. That is true.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

That's fair. That's a fair assessment. I just think in that I just think that division's got some, like, I don't know. I don't see the I see I see the Colts finishing last. Yeah. But it's kind of crazy too. Yeah, but I think the Titans are gonna be significantly better than what a lot of people give them credit for.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

It's it's tough because I would like to name a surprise playoff team. I think it's gonna come in the NFC though.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Alright. Well, speaking of your NFC, let's hear your seven for the NFC.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Oh I think the Lions bounce back. I think they make the playoffs this year. Okay. I like the Rams and the Seahawks. I also I don't know, dude. I I think that there's a chance that there's a significant I don't you want you got Caleb Williams for MVP.

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Right. I also have the Bears in the Super Bowl.

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Yeah, against the Jets.

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The conspiracy team is the Jets, but I'm pretty sure my actual prediction was the Bills.

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Head division sick. Oh, that's tough. I uh I like the Saints. I think the Saints are coming out of the NFC South.

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Okay.

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So what is that? Four teams? You've got to be a little bit more than a lot of Lions, Seahawks, Saints. Let's go let's go Cowboys. I think the Cowboys make it in over that division. I think the Giants are gonna be better. I don't think they make the playoffs. I think the commanders are probably gonna be a little bit better. I don't think they make the playoffs.

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Give me We're looking for one division winner.

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What do you mean, division winner? Or wait, no, never mind. I was about to say I think I named all the division winners. You went Saints, Lions, Cowboys, yeah.

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And then either the Rams or the Seahawks, and then one of them as your wildcards. You've got two more wild card teams.

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Yeah, I think I'm I think the two the teams that I think are the better of the like it's definitely between like the 49ers, the Bears, the Packers. Give me the 49ers and the Bears.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Oh, so he doesn't think the Eagles are making the playoffs.

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No.

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You're out on Jalen Hurts.

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No. It's tough. I actually think he's probably gonna have a better year. He'll probably have a much better year this year. You think so? Yeah. See, I U O C. They're obviously not gonna revert back to the bullshit they were doing. He didn't run the ball a ton last year. I think he only had eight rushing touchdowns last year. I think the last the three years before that, he had like 12 or more. I think that they'll revert back to that, especially in the red zone. It was so effective. Yeah. Like I don't know why you would go away from that. They're probably like they're a fringe playoff. Like they're gonna be there. Man, it's just dude. I think the Cowboys are gonna take a significant leap, though.

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I I agree. I picked up their defensive fantasy in the dynasty.

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I don't even know if it's because I like I don't know if it's that their defense is gonna take a significant leap forward. Well, it has to be.

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I think it's going to.

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It can't be much worse than what it was. Right. So I mean it can only get better.

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They don't need to go and be a top 10 defense or something.

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Because they're offensive.

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They can just get in like the 20 to you know, 14.

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A middling defense.

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Yeah, you you give me a mid-tier defense, like I'm cool with that.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

The hype on Caleb Downs is so crazy.

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He's I believe he was referred to as gold jacket.

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Yeah. Like the people are calling the man gold jacket material before he's ever played a snap.

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It's impressive.

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He does seem to have the dog from what scouting I've done. I'm obviously not an expert, so I can't tell you whether he's a gold jacket guy or not.

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It's hard to watch film on a college guy and say, hey, this guy's Hall of Fame in the NFL.

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But the the people that have said it all played in the NFL.

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So I think I'm gonna be wrong too.

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They can, but I think I'm gonna follow them.

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Yeah.

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I think I'm gonna follow them and be like, hey, if he's a gold jacket guy, their defense is obviously gonna be s way better.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Yeah. I think they did a lot to address the absence of Micah Parsons now that I like like the trade for has now essentially been because didn't they trade that other pick that they got from Green Bay next year? Maybe not, but even even then, you just look at what they turned Micah Parsons, the Micah Parsons deal into on the defensive side of the ball, and I think that that's gonna take a significant step forward.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

Yeah, Jerry Jones cooked.

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Yeah.

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Now he cooked in the offseason.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

I agree with you. I like Dallas to win that division. If they're healthy, if Dak's healthy, obviously. And CeeDee Lamb. I just don't think more than one. See, I can. See, so I'll run down my list real quick and then we can talk about it a little bit more. So I'll just start with the division winners. Obviously, I'm riding with my boy, MVP pick, Chicago Bears. Taylor Williams is going to get the job done. I like the Panthers in the South again. I like what they've done on defense. You know, they added another wide receiver that I like in Brazzell. Brazzle. Whatever. However you pronounce it.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I don't know how you pronounce it.

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Either way it goes. I like him. Only thing about it is you're a Tennessee wide receiver. We know they are along the lines of Texas wide receivers, I believe, and how we feel about them. They're not great.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Juwan Jennings is good.

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I like the defense. I like the coach. I like Bryce Young. You still got Chuba Hubbard there. You know, maybe Jonathan Brooks comes back.

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He's on the dynasty.

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So I got the Panthers there. Out west. It really does. I'm going to go with the Rams to win the division. I do also like the Seahawks to make the playoffs. And so what I've got Dallas, the Bears. So yeah, there's all of the divisions there. My three wildcard teams.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

No, you didn't. You said you got Dallas, Bears, Rams. And Panthers. Oh, Panthers, yeah, okay.

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And then for my wildcard teams, this is where we're going to start to differ a little bit. I do like the Seahawks to still make the playoffs. I also like the Lions to make the playoffs. The biggest thing is I'm going to slot Philly in that spot. The defense I'm expecting to still be really good. You know, the yes, AJ Brown's going to be a loss, but you're bringing in Mikai Lemon. You know, I don't I don't think the drop-off in the wide receiver, as far as from a production standpoint, is going to be much different, if any. I mean, AJ Brown was a thousand-yard receiver last year. Obviously, they're two totally different players, but you know, I think Saquon bounces back. You know, they've given me no reason to think that they're not going to at least be a playoff team. Right. Like my reasonings for I don't, I'm not big on San Francisco. Like everybody's talking about the Mike Evans thing. You know, he's older now. You've got injury concerns all across the board.

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I think Mike Evans is going to be like a significant red zone target.

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Yeah. But I don't love what they have outside of that.

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I think Brock Purdy's the man.

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I mean, you got you got McCaffrey to go.

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I just think I don't know. They're siphoning people.

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How much sacrificing are they going to do this year? I mean, you got Trent Williams coming back on the deal. I don't know. It's going to be Trent. Tricky. Fred Warner should be back and healthy. If I had to swap, if I had to swap San Fran for a team that's in the playoffs, I think I would take the lines out instead.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

It's just hard to bet against Kyle Shanahan.

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Yeah. And that's what makes it difficult to because it's like, well, we, you know, they've they've been consistent at when Christian McCaffrey's been healthy. But I don't know, man. I just feel like somebody's gonna have to take a step back in that division. I don't see them going back to back three teams in the division. I'm too high on the Rams. Way too high.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

It's almost I feel dangerously high about the Rams.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah. I mean, they'd probably be if I wasn't all in on Caleb Williams this year, I'd probably pick the Rams to come out of the NFC. I don't love that they didn't uh draft like a rookie. Like I understand them going with Ty Simpson. I feel like in their situation, it's not a bad move either way, but they probably should have went something. So found a way to add to the team more of the impact, like immediate future versus looking down the road. I uh but I think I think Seattle has potential to take a step back. Like I don't I don't see them coming anywhere.

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They lost a lot on defense.

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Yeah. I don't I don't expect them to come anywhere close to like what they were in the regular season last year.

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Do you think Sam Darnold Pumpkin? Is it hard to can you even say pumpkins?

SPEAKER_02 23:26

No, I'm not sitting here saying that it's gonna be necessarily all on Sam Darnold. I just think their defense is still gonna be good, but they lost a lot. Like you lost Witherspoon, you lost Mafe, you lost who else they have? Can you lose Kenneth Walker? Like that's that's a big loss.

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It was a big loss for the playoffs.

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Outside of JSN, I don't love their wide receiving core.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

So you don't love Rasheed Shaheed?

SPEAKER_02 23:56

Uh no, I mean he's he's a big play guy, but you know, he's one of those players where I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Jake Bobo?

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I don't love Bobo. I'm I'm bigger on uh I like Barner.

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What was my boy Horton? Tory Horton.

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You're not a big Tory Horton guy? I don't love the way.

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He flashed. What are you talking about?

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I don't know. He flashed, yeah.

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He had like two good games there.

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Two?

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Two. And then he got hurt.

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Very impressive. Yeah, I just I mean, you know, they're gonna they got Price in the first round. I don't think he's Kenneth Walker by any means. He definitely isn't.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

So he had five total receptions.

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And then you got the Super Bowl hangout. Let me repeat that. Hold on, stop.

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He had five total receptions last year.

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It's fine, man. He runs the ball.

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That's fucking nuts.

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You know who else doesn't have a whole lot of receptions? Who? Derrick Henry. Okay. Slow the fuck down. That's crazy. Hey, hey, hold on. He got drafted higher than got drafted higher than Derrick Henry.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

We have a dog in the room. That's what you just heard. And she won't leave. So if you hear some barking, I do apologize. Let's go through uh there's a couple teams I want to talk about here. Let's talk about the Vikings. I think they slotted in as the 11th toughest schedule new quarterback this year. I would assume. I would think Kyler Murray probably wins the job. Is there any chance the Vikings can make the playoffs?

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Yeah, I mean, you their defense, I'm expecting to still be good.

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Their defense should be good.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

You kept Brian Flores. I mean, it's any offense that's got Justin Jefferson on it, I'm gonna say has potential when you give competent quarterback play. It's uh it just depends on how you feel, Kyler. Like how much does Kyler Murray move the needle? What's the truth about Kyler Murray? He's plays a lot of Call of Duty.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Kevin O'Connell's not gonna change that. I don't think you're good when you play for the Vikings.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yeah, he's gonna make them play a whole bunch of Madden.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Well, I don't think you're good when you play for the Vikings. It's when you leave the Vikings. Right? Yeah. Daniel Jones was good for what eight games? He was great. You got Sam Darnold left the Vikings. Sick.

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Yeah.

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You know. I don't know if Kyler Murray's the guy. I'm not even I like he probably wins the job, but I bet it's an actual competition.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

It's not that I think Kyler Murray's bad. I just don't necessarily think that Kyler Murray is good.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

I think Kyler Murray's way better for fantasy purposes. That's what I think Kyler Murray's for. For sure. I don't think Kyler Murray's gonna win.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Wouldn't mind Kyler Murray if that was like a starting quarterback for me. The only problem is like he's very inconsistent. Like, not from a fantasy perspective, just like over the course of a game. We uh you get the highs and the lows of Kyler Murray all the time.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

There's there's two more. Well, no, there's a there's a couple more. We brushed over these teams a little bit earlier. Ravens and Eagles. The 23rd and 24th easiest schedules.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Yeah, so both of them back. I never went over my AFC predictions.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Oh yeah.

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I do but but I do like I do like the Ravens to bounce back. I like the Ravens.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Well you can just lead that straight into your AFC predictions.

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So I'm gonna go Ravens to win the division. I like the Chiefs to come bounce back. The Pat Mahomes effect. If he's there week one, uh it's hard for me to pick against him.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

If Justin Fields is there week one.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Then it then how long is Pat out? That's the question. Yeah, you know. If Pat if Pat's out the first four games of the season, this changes the entire outlook for me.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

I agree. I would probably pick him to miss the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I'm gonna go Chiefs. So I like the Chiefs to win the division. Um I like the Bills to bounce back and win their division. And then the AFC South's kind of tough for me. I don't know what it is. I think I'm gonna roll with Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

I thought you were gonna say the Titans.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

I don't have a like I believe we can. Like, don't like look, if Cam Ward takes a step, this offense really has potential.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

On paper, it looks, it looks good.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Like if Cam Ward takes that step, I think Gunnar Ham's gonna have a breakout year. Or maybe not a breakout, but like he's gonna take a significant step forward just by being on the field more. If you drafted Carnell Tate, add him in, slotted in as the number one wide receiver. I think that makes your wide receiving core look a lot better than it did last year with Carnell Tate, Ridley, Wandale, Robinson, and now you've got DK and AO as wide receivers four and five. I like Tony Pollard. He looked good towards the end of the year. Obviously, we're gonna need we're gonna need the offensive line to play well. But I don't know if I want to put the Titans in the playoffs, but I think that if they're gonna be a team that can be competing for like a seven seed for sure.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

I don't know what the over-under on the Titans is. If it's six and a half, I don't even think it would be that high. I like the I like the over.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

And I know I do this every year, but I'm taking that. So I've got so I've got the Chiefs. Did you take it last year? I didn't actually bet it, but I would have. Dirtbag. I was a big big believer in Cam War dog. That is. So I've got what do I have? I've got Chiefs, Jags, Ravens, Bills. I'm gonna go Patriots, playoff team. Only thing that gives me a question about them is what is this Mike Rabel shit going to do over the course of the season? He's not gonna get fired. I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna get fired, but like, is this shit like the distraction, you know, do they get off to a rough start early in the season? Is the Super Bowl hangover for the team that loses? Like, is that a thing?

SPEAKER_01 30:13

I think the thing that will be the most entry interesting about the Patriots is the fact tougher schedule. Way tougher. It's literally from the easiest to the sixth hardest. Like it's a big difference.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Yeah. And then, you know, you're expecting Drake May to play at the level that he did. I don't bank on that.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

If they do get AJ Brown, though, that's a significant help.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Absolutely. Which I mean, that's pretty much a foregone conclusion, I feel like it's a good idea. Allegedly. I got two more. I'm gonna throw the Bengals in there as well. I think there's a lot of pressure on Joe Burrow this year. If he's healthy, obviously that offense is just too lethal for me to pass up. And I'm gonna go for my last spot. I'm gonna go with uh with the Chargers.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

So the Texans don't make it.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

I don't think the Texans make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

The Broncos don't make it.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

I think that defense takes a little step back.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

The Broncos don't make it.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

I don't believe in either quarterback. Bo Nicks look good, but like I feel like I feel like the ceilings for some of these other teams with their quarterbacks are gonna push them over there.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

I feel like if we didn't see the picture of Bo Nicks's leg, you wouldn't feel this way about the Broncos.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

No, I mean I have the Broncos taking a step back either way. You wouldn't think Bo see I don't think Bo Nicks is gonna get much better than what he is.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

You have a Broncos fan in your family. Have you let him know that his team's not gonna make the game?

SPEAKER_02 31:42

No, we haven't talked about it yet. But when we talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

How do you think he's gonna react to that?

SPEAKER_02 31:48

He's gonna tell me that I'm nuts. He's gonna ask me why, and I'm gonna say the exact same thing. Like, here's the thing. If Jalen Waddles continues to have injury issues, if Bo Nick doesn't come back and is the quarterback that he was last year, and that defense takes a step back, they're cooked.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

I mean, losing I guess losing John Franklin Myers is it doesn't help, but I don't think he's irreplaceable.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Right. No, it doesn't, but it I mean it just goes to the it just goes to the the regression that I expect from these like I don't expect these defenses to be exactly the same as they are were last year. Like I don't think the 2025 Broncos defense and the 2026 Broncos defense is gonna be played like at the exact same level that it was.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

They're not even remotely the same. That's what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

No, I'm not saying that they're remotely number one. Like a lot of the personnel is still the the same.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

They're gonna go from the number one seed to the no seed at all because they're not in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah, I just I don't I just I think there's gonna be some teams that I think if a healthy if if Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow are both healthy, they're gonna make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Okay. Look, the it's the great thing about the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

It changes year over year.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Yeah, the discrepancy of it. There's legitimately every single year there's a team that goes worst to first.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Right, and I don't think either one of us included anybody in either side.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

So with that being said, like I do mean this, like this is a legit statistic, and I know you know it. Like, there is a team every single year that goes worst to first. Right. Who's your team?

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Well, considered I didn't put any of them in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

That's fine. Look, I I get that, but I'm just just pick one.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

I think it's obvious going with the Tennessee Titans.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

That's your worst to first.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

That's my worst to first team. I don't think the division is that great. I think Cam Ward like it's not far-fetched to say if Cam Ward takes a step that he can be the best of quarterback in that division. I think we got a significant upgrade on the coaching front. Like, I think the culture is gonna be a lot better. I think the defense is gonna be a lot better. Like, the Titans had a great offseason.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

I think that they are a candidate to go worst to first. They are not my pick.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

When I look around the division, I mean there's only I mean it I can't say the Raiders because they got a rookie quarterback coming in, even though they added a lot.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

It's gonna be Kirk Cousins. So just can't be the Browns.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

It can't be the Browns because it's the Browns. You say that. I mean, they've lost the only good thing that they had in the building outside of Miles Garrett.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Deshaun Watson's coming.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Oh, yeah, great.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Hey, how bad does the media hate Shador Sanders that they forgave Deshaun Watson?

SPEAKER_02 34:48

I think about it like that, but when you say it that way, it kind of makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Is that not the craziest shit ever? How do you hate somebody so bad that you've forgiven a guy that did unforgivable things? Yeah, nuts.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

He's a dirt bag.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

He's a dirtbag.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

I have a feeling that your worst to first team's coming in the NFC. And I feel like I also know who it is.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Yeah, I think it's to me personally, I think it's the only other worst to first option. Yeah. I think it's the Giants. Is that who you were thinking?

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Yeah. I I I feel like those are the probably two most obvious worst to first. It's I know that like I think we we both expect the Cowboys to take significant a significant jump forward. I still believe that, but I think if there was a team.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

I think if there's a team that is I I feel like from the NFC side of it, if there's a team that was like is best engineered to go worse from worst to worst to first, for me, it's obvious it's the Lions. That's true. I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

They just like they weren't a bad team last year.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

That def that division was just so right, right.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Like it just they don't feel like a worst to first team.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

No. And I mean, you know, like they're a good football team. Like they were a few. But their defense, is their defense worth the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Right. Hey, they added a bunch to it.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

They try, um, yeah, I mean, it's worth the try.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

The Giants have like seven different linebackers. They're gonna be able to rotate, they're gonna be they should always be able to get pressure for sure. Always.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

It's just the biggest thing for my concern with the Giants is on the offensive side of the ball.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

I think I like John Harbaugh going in there.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

And giving just a whole lot of Cam Scadabo.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Ha, buddy. And they didn't draft a running back. There was not a person more happy when the draft was over, and I looked down the Giants draft roster, and I was like, oh man, they didn't even touch a running back, brother. It's Cam Scadaboo time.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

Yeah, it's just that I just feel like their wide receiver room's not great outside of neighbors. That's okay. Speaking of Malik Neighbors, a little dynasty talk. I was once the proud owner of Malik at Neighbors.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Not no more.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

I made a very significant trade.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

He got rid of him.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

And you know, I would have thought that Malik Neighbors was gonna die on my roster.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Why? Because I love Malik Neighbors. You just it was an offer too good to pass up.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

It was, yeah, I mean, I got three first round picks and Cortland Sutton. And what made it easier for me was the fact that I've literally won a ship last year without Malik Neighbors.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

So being able to turn Malik Neighbors who didn't even like play for me last year into four assets in the future, two first round picks this year and a third, and and a and a the third one's in 2028. You I got I added some depth. So like we made some, you know, you know, obviously I feel like in those situations when you look at the who won the trade, you always look at the person that gets the best player as the winner.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

But I mean, dude, you go look at the rest of Bro's roster. I mean, he's got like two other good players.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

He just doesn't have enough to he definitely cannot be carried by one player.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

Yeah. He just doesn't have the roster around it.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

Trading Colston Loveland for TJ Hawkinson's also disgusting work. So Jesus, man. Brother, that's I wish I could have talked him out of it.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

But back to back to the Giants, which you were saying without getting too deep into that. That's another conversation. But yeah, I mean I mean I can see why you feel like John Harbaugh is gonna, you know, that they're a good worst to first candidate. But I don't know, man. That I I don't think that I think that the division got is gonna be a lot better this year. Top to bottom. I mean, Jaden Daniels is coming back. The Cowboys made significant upgrades. Like I still slot the Giants as the fourth team in that division.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

I could agree with that. It'll be the Giants or the Commanders. I think the Commanders Giants go worst first.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

I think we're forgetting like the Commanders were just in the NFC Championship game.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

I don't like Dan Quinn. I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Not a big Dan Quinn guy.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

The backwards hat is stupid. And I'm not a guy, like I'm not a guy that can sit over here and look you in the eye and be like, yeah, backwards hats, they're stupid. You shouldn't do it. I'm not gonna be an old curmudgeon. I'm just saying that his backwards hat is stupid.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like him doing it at his age. Yeah, he's fucking. It seems like it'd be a young coach kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Yeah, right. Like if Sean McVay wore a backwards hat, I'd be like, ah, kind of cool. Kind of cool. Look, we're gonna we're gonna do one more thing. And I know you want to talk about these fucking international games so bad, so we're going to.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

No, we don't have to either.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

No, we're going to. We're going to. We're going to go all nine games, nine international games this year. It's a record. Congratulations to us. It's awesome. At least for the week one game, we don't got to wake up early. It's Rams 49ers, Australia, Thursday, September 10th.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

That's crazy. It's crazy that they put they started the the season a day early. Yeah, because of the because of that game.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

Why not? Why not? If we can make more money, why wouldn't we? Who you like winning? Rams 49ers.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

I'm going Rams. I'm going Rams.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

I mean We're both going Rams.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

You know, neutral site game, so it's like, you know, you take the crowd out of it. Obviously, we'll probably see people traveling. But all things considered, I just in that game, I'm just looking at who do I think has the better roster, and it's pretty clear for me.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

So with this game being a rivalry game, do you feel like we'll see this is the thing that I don't love. Is you're taking a a big rivalry game in the NFL and you take it 20 hours away by plane.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

And put it on a neutral site. Yeah. Yeah, I don't love that.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

I don't love that.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

I don't I don't think they should have done that for like a divisional game.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

The Rams lose a home game?

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Like there's no way that these teams. There's no way that these teams love this.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

There's no way.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

I mean, I mean, you just gotta think. You literally have to like get on a plane and go to like a foreign foreign country. I mean, I'm sure it's probably dope in some aspects.

unknown 41:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

But like from just like the football thing, obviously, you probably gotta hate it. The product.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

You're losing the product. Yeah. Like the product's not dope.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

Typically, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Like we're looking for great product. Like, I'm I like it's supposed like if it was in LA or it was in San Francisco, the chances of it being a great game are high.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

And I think, and I think a lot of it too for me is it was different when it was just one or two games, but like how like every year it's more, like, it's just like I don't know. It's crazy. It used to be something that was cool to me because it's like, all right, you just one one game goes over there, you go watch it, and then you're back to reality. It's cool to go play a game out of the country.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Yeah, not the case anymore.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

But then when you go do nine of them, it's just I don't know. It's not my thing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

Week three. Week three. Dallas Cowboys versus the Ravens.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

That's gonna be a great game.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Brazil. It starts at, I think.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

I guess the good thing with that one is the time zone change isn't nearly as bad.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

Yeah, I think the game starts at 3.25, so it's not horrible. Who you like winning the game?

SPEAKER_02 43:07

It's hard. It's hard at this point to project that game out, obviously. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Baltimore.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Just as a Derrick Henry owner. Duh.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

I uh I think that I like I think I like the Cowboys. He likes the Cowboys. It's tough. We'll see. The last time they played in Brazil, wasn't the field fucking terrible?

SPEAKER_02 43:32

Yeah. It was the what was it the Eagles Packers? Uh no, I thought it was the uh no last year was the Chargers and the Chiefs, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Oh yeah, I guess they did play.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

That game that game sucked. Yeah. And guess what? And that Packers Eagles game the year before also wasn't great.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Yeah, no, that that pa I remember the Packers Eagles game being Horrible. Like everybody kept slipping and falling. It was terrible.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

I mean we're putting our picks out there, though. If you wanted to go bet some futures. I bet these lines are out there. We got week four. Commanders versus Colts. This should be fairly rough, in my opinion. I feel like it's commanders easily. I think it's the commanders, too. You never know, though, dude. It's in England. The game starts at 90 or 8:30.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Yeah, it's like last year when the Jets should have beat the Broncos.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Yeah, you you never know. It's a real crapshoot. I like the Commanders as well, though. Yeah, I just don't think the culture is good. I don't think they're gonna be good. You're not a fan. You got week five. Eagles Jags. You can obviously, you know where this game's at because it's the Jags' second home. It's in London.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Don't they play their like back-to-back weeks? Yep. I believe the other one's what, Pittsburgh? No. It's Houston. Houston, that's who it is.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Yeah. Who you like? Eagles Jags.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

I'm going, I'm going Jags. Oh. Really? Like you said, bro, it's their second home and T Law. You know, they're used to it.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

That actually catches me off surprise a little bit. I thought you were gonna take the Eagles. I'm taking the Eagles. And and look, and here, I'll even go ahead and say this too.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Next week, I'm gonna go Jacksonville again.

SPEAKER_01 45:30

Really?

SPEAKER_02 45:31

They're already gonna be there.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Against the Texans.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Those kind of things matter.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with that. When do bye week start? After week six? Um I think it's like four. Is it week four?

SPEAKER_02 45:47

I think it's after week four, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

I wonder if the Texans will be on bye before that game.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

Would you rather have the bye before or after?

SPEAKER_01 45:58

The game in London?

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Ooh, that's tough.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

I'd probably rather have it after because like you get to have the you don't have to fly like even on a bye before. You still have to you get the week off and then you fly down there still. But at least like before your next game, you you're off.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

So there used to be like a bunch of different trains of thought on this. Like teams like would go like real early, like a week early, so they could try and get adjusted to the time change and stuff. But then like teams started like flying in what like the day or two before the game. Like it wouldn't Yeah. I I don't know I don't know what the right answer is there. I don't even know if there is a right answer.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

I feel like the way you do would be mandatory.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

I feel like that would probably be the best, but if you're one of those guys that thinks that, oh, we could spend a week there and get a you know get acclimated with the time change and stuff, then that would probably be the way to go. If that's the way you believe.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

But then you gotta think you're gonna play a football game, travel back, prepare for a game, and then immediately have to play. You would think that's a good thing. Like you all want to have that same effect back to back.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Right. Because you still gotta travel to go to the game. Well, you would think that you would take like an extra day off or so in the middle of the week just to give the guys the rest of the Yeah, but then you don't yeah, but then you're taking a a day of preparation away. Yeah, you're gonna be underprepared for the next game. So you're going Jags.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

I'm going Jags back to the back.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

I'll probably go Jags too just because I think you're right. I think it's significant than being there two weeks in a row. Week seven, you got the this is gonna be a fucking this will be a good game. The Saints and the Pittsburgh Steelers in France. How's this make you feel? I'm going Saints. It's going Saints. Yeah. Defense travels.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Yeah, I'm I don't think that I just don't think that the Steelers are good. I mean, even with Aaron Rodgers at this point, like the whole the whole Aaron Rodgers making you wait and like missing out on all of this other shit. You got a new coach, all this other stuff. Like, yes, it's a system that you're familiar with, but not the other people in there aren't.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Like, I kind of like Aaron Rodgers, but is he a dirt bag? Yeah, he's a dirtbag.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

He seems I just, you know, like you're pushing this off because you don't want to go through like the off-season program, but like with the new with the new coach coming in, but that should be so hard to do. Right, but you're the rest of your team doesn't. So like you're gonna want to get on the same page with these guys.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

It's real dirtbaggery.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Yeah, it's hard to get on the same page when you're not hearing this like, yeah, well, you show up to training camp, that's cool, but you're missing like all of the install and everything else early in the offseason, which I get it. I mean, it's you're you're and he's in what year 20, 21.

SPEAKER_01 48:48

Yeah, but just because you get it doesn't mean.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

So when you're a pro, when you're a pro, you're you know, when you're in New England, you don't think Tom Brady would have would have been perfectly fine if he never did anything offseason with the team because it's Tom Brady. I don't talk about an all-time great talent.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

I don't even believe that though. Like Tom Brady wouldn't do that. Yeah, well, there's a reason it's there. Yeah, right, exactly. There's a reason it's it's not there for nothing.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

So I I think and if and if he does decide I'm not playing here, I'm going somewhere else, or I'm done, then they they don't have a quarterback.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

Well, you don't have to worry about that because they're already expected to sign with the Steelers.

SPEAKER_02 49:26

And then and then not only that, who's to say Aaron Rodgers' body's gonna hold up as old as it is as he is?

SPEAKER_01 49:31

Man, he can't move. Yeah, but he flies to France all the time, probably.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

He's gonna he's gonna have to get he's gonna like I mean you saw how last year, like look how quick he was getting the ball out of his hands last year.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Yeah, he'll probably be doing that again. Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

So your offense isn't about to be something like super explosive.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

I'm also going Saints. That's in week seven. I I think I said that. And then this should be a game. It'll be a game played in week nine. I doubt there'll be any real significance to it. It is the Cincinnati Bengals versus the Atlanta Falcons in the Bernabayu, in Real Madrid. Oh, I say Real Madrid, in Madrid, Spain. It's Real Madrid Stadium. I'm gonna watch it just because it's played in one of the coolest soccer stadiums in the world. I'm gonna watch it because it's the NFL. That's fair. And it's you know, it's an 8:30 a.m. game. I get to wake up, brush my teeth, boom, there's football on. Man. Yeah, I mean if I fall back asleep. I feel like it's pretty obvious.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

If I mean, we're I'm looking at healthy. It's obviously.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

We're both going Bengals, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

I mean, I well, the only thing is is that might be one of those games where like B. John Robinson has like 250 and three touchdowns. I mean, it is the Bengals defense.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

That's true. I guess you don't wanna you don't wanna you don't want to overpromise on the Bengals just so they can come out here and let you down.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

That's right. Which I mean, I have no ties to the Bengals. I mean I would like to get Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Good luck. Can't? Good luck. That's week nine. We'll remember that week forever. Week 10. The Lions versus the Patriots. That's gonna be a good game. Yeah, on paper, you're like, this is a great game.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

I said, that's gonna be the one. I'm going, I'm going lines. It's in Munich, Germany. I'm going lines. I've I've picked them as my team in the NFC that I like to go from rush to first. I think that they're gonna be an improved team playoff team. I don't think that the Patriots are gonna exactly be a 14.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

You're gonna have to watch out for is if Diana Roussini flies over to Germany, too. She's not going to, at least as a reporter. No, it'll be. His wife's gonna make sure she's on the road. It'll be as a mistress this time, not as a reporter. I don't think bringing his side piece to the telly. I don't think I don't think Dan Campbell's gonna allow his guys. I don't have they played an overseas game since he's been the coach. I don't know. I don't think I don't think they I don't think so. I don't think Dan Campbell's gonna allow them to go in there and be not prepared. Nah. Yeah, but he's a guy that I mean, I guess Mike Vabel's similar in that sense. I feel like Dan Campbell's like pissed off about last year. And I feel like his team's gonna be. I feel like Dan Campbell's gonna take Mike Vabel cheating on his wife personally. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 52:25

We're gonna do it for the faithful people.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

Like Dan Campbell, like Dan Campbell seems to be a guy that you cheat on your wife, you should be cheating with the game. He's like, he's well, he's just a real stand-up guy.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

Yeah. He just seems like a guy that cares.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

I don't know if I would say that someone who refuses to kick a field goal or a punt on fourth down, so what I'd say is a stand-up guy.

SPEAKER_01 52:53

No, maybe that makes him even more the stand-up guy. That's just how much belief he has in his offense. Like, if Mike Vrabel would have believed in his wife, like Dan Campbell believes in his offense, this would have never been a problem. That is true. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Maybe he just believed that much in Diana Roussini, whether it was worth risking at all.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Like Dan Campbell, like Dan Campbell would die before he cheated on his wife. Shout out Dan Campbell. You know what I'm saying? Like Dan Campbell's gonna go into that locker room before that game. He's like, we're gonna go out here and beat this piece of shit. And we're doing this for what's Diana Roussini's wife's or husband's name? Kevin Goldstein? Something like that? Man. He should have knew he was cooked when she didn't take his last name.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

She did it for her journalistic integrity.

SPEAKER_01 53:45

Yeah. For her name. She's writing a journal at home now.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Her journalist integrity's out.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

She's gonna do a 60 minutes and get it and then revive herself from her from her career.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Man, like hey, I hope so. I hope so. I hey I said it last, I said it last pod. She'd be great on Barstool.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

I don't yeah, they probably promote her fucking for Intel.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Yeah, right. Barstool could get her back. Back. And last but not least, week 11. Thank God. It ends in week 11. The games end week that is so fucking crazy to me. Week 11, you got the San Francisco 49ers versus the Vikings in Mexico City.

SPEAKER_02 54:34

You don't have the 49ers really got fucked.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Oh my god. Those poor dudes. They got it twice. I mean, you say that, but maybe they're just getting away from those, you know, those sound or whatever those waves.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

They can stop in on the way over.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Maybe it's preserving their soft tissue. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

Christian McCaffrey can see his uh his uh Achilles specialist while he's down there.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

Well, yeah. Well, they also don't have to be next to the substation.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

Yeah, take a break. It's almost like a bye week for them.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Right. They don't have to be next to the substation. They don't those are two weeks you can almost guarantee they don't sacrifice somebody.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

It just kind of sucks. Because I mean, yeah, the Jags get two, but they're at least back to back in the same spot.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Right. That's fair. That is kind of crazy. At least this one's in Mexico and not what Brazil. Is that where their game is?

unknown 55:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

Where's their other game? Hold on. I'm about to look at it. No, I thought it was in like Australia. Is it week one? Yeah, it is week one, Australia. That's fucking tough. That's tough.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

They're gonna go. Look, your family members are gonna be able to go to the game.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

That's true. I uh I should give them a call and be like, hey, you guys need to make sure you buy tickets to a horrible football game.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

I think you should ask for a place to stay and you go to the game. Should I?

SPEAKER_01 55:55

Report, report from down under. Man. Just reporting from down under.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

I just ate some shrimp on the bobby.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

I would uh I'd probably go to that game and get upset.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

You'd be like, yeah, I'd ask you about the food. You'd be like, dude, everything is is like outback steakhouse. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

Oh, that's crazy. Who you like winning San Fran, Minnesota?

SPEAKER_02 56:21

I'm going San Francisco. I don't believe in Kyler Murray.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

Oh, you don't even believe in nine either, huh?

SPEAKER_02 56:27

No, God, no. I mean, how could I?

SPEAKER_01 56:30

He won five games in a row at the end of the season last year.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

Look, they believed in him so much they said, here, how about I go take Kyler Murray? Someone who's, you know, I mean, it ain't like he's done a whole lot of winning.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

And say, you know what?

SPEAKER_01 56:47

He did have that one good year.

SPEAKER_02 56:49

Someone that he got hurt and then he was, you know, supposed to come back and then got shut down for the year. Yeah. They were like, we'd rather have Jacoby Briskett.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Jacoby Briskett. He's the man, dude. He'll be the starting quarterback in in Arizona this year. Shout out to the Cardinals for drafting a running back at three. They saw how the Raiders did last year and they're like, we can do that too.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

And like the good thing is, is I mean, I get it. Because if Jeremiah loves nice and your team still sucks, you get your quarterback next year.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

Maybe. Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

They're not going to be able to get anything in return for any of the running backs that they signed because I mean, who played enough to showcase like that they're running back one?

SPEAKER_01 57:39

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Like you can make a case for all of those running backs playing in a like obviously the goal line guy is going to be Algier.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

We I didn't make my pick, but I'm going Minnesota in that weekly.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

He's a dirtbag.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

Yeah, I'm going Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

We'll see how you feel when we recap these, like going into these games, like in real when the season begins.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

You know what I can't wait for? The thing I'm most excited about is Raleigh versus Parallax. Okay. That's what I'm most excited about. I can't wait to be better than Parallax. And then I can start my own thing. Where I just I have a where I have a it'll be like a 15-minute pod where I just go and I don't say anything else but the winners and the losers of the games.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 58:30

That's it. Game one of the day, winner. Like that's I'll just go down the list, pick my winners, and then that's the end of it.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

People like that. As long as you're winning.

SPEAKER_00 58:44

Yeah. Till I don't. Be great content. Till the black cat sets in. Man.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Then everybody I get death threats. You're gonna go, you're gonna be the first person to go oh for a hundred on straight nets.

SPEAKER_00 58:57

They're gonna be like, I lost my house. I bet my kids' college foot on this. I'd be like, hey, I didn't tell you to do that. Yeah, it wasn't gambling advice.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Well, like I just picked. Yeah, right. Just made picks. Right. You don't even know who I am. Man, bro, that's all I got. That's it, man. We'll we'll be able to get into it more once the actual schedule's out. Yeah, yeah. We'll go back to the show. Going a little bit depth of like, you know, how we feel, which there are a few of them out. A few of the week early like season matchups.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

Well, we uh we went over all nine international games.

SPEAKER_02 59:31

Yeah, we'll we'll tell we'll tell once the schedule's like official, we'll go through and we'll we'll talk about some of these early season matchups that we're excited to see. Yeah, we're while we think about the timing of team schedules and stuff like that. We'll start be able to have a better picture of like some predictions we'll be able to do for teams record-wise.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

We'll start getting a few.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

It was just a rough, a rough estimate of what we expect based on schedule, strength of schedule.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Yeah, and belief in teams. We'll see, you know. Man, that's it. Episode 21. Man, we appreciate it as always. Like, share, subscribe, tell your friends, tell have your friend tell a friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Man, one day. It'll have them tell a friend. Tell your cousin, tell your parents. One day will be something. Man, I promise.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

It's gonna start with getting a camera.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

Man, we've been slacking. Man, we out of here.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

We'll see y'all on the next one.