We're Not Experts
We’re Not Experts is a podcast hosted by two guys who’ve somehow survived 15+ years of friendship and now think that qualifies them to talk into microphones. We’re average early 30’s dudes with very strong opinions and very average credentials—which is exactly the point.
We’re sports ethicists in the loosest sense of the term, breaking down the morals, madness, and mayhem of a wide variety of sports… but let’s be honest: football will absolutely hijack the conversation. We can talk about other sports. We just won’t stop talking about football.
Expect passionate debates, hot takes that cool off immediately, arguments that go nowhere, and the occasional moment of clarity that surprises everyone—including them. Stats may appear. Logic might leave the room. Confidence will always be high.
We’re not analysts. We’re not insiders. We’re definitely not experts.
We’re just two longtime friends talking sports the way most people do—too confidently, for too long, and with absolutely no credentials to back it up.
We’re Not Experts — and neither are you, so you’ll fit right in.
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Malik Nabers speaks on Carnell Tate and welcome back Dianna Russini to the pod. Little NBA sprinkled in, plenty of takes, and the usual chaos.
Welcome to the pod. We are back for the 20th time. The cave. What a crazy milestone, bro. How long when we started this, how long do you think it was gonna take us to get to 20? I don't know. Did we get there faster or slower than you originally thought? Probably faster. Do you think we would you think we would have like given up by now? No, I knew we weren't gonna give up because we liked it. Like, I mean, we were gonna talk about sports regardless, so we might as well do it while we're being recorded. That is true. Just in case. That way we can at least go back and be like, you remember when you said that dumbass shit? Yeah, right. It's at least on record. Like, no, I didn't. It's Justin Butler's flu game. It is my flu game. Woke up today a little under the weather. Nose was running, slash, stopped up, haven't been able to breathe all day. Head's the size of a balloon. He sounds like dirt. I said, garbage. I wasn't going to pod today, but I said, man, people out here playing hockey series with torn MCLs for four games. You know, people are doing shit like that. Or you could have Jason Tatum the route and had knee soreness and sat out a game seven. But I ain't no bitch. Some things are bigger than sitting out, you know? Can't afford to sit out a day on the pot. I mean, you can. We're not getting paid. I'm here for the love of the game. That is a man that loves the game. That's where you gotta start. You gotta start. You gotta want it. You gotta want it. Someone, I know we're an NFL podcast. Someone did not want it yesterday. His name was Jason Tatum. He didn't. He said, My knees not. He didn't say it was hurting. He said, I'm just having some discomfort. You know, to be honest with you, earlier in the week I texted our group chat that we have, and I asked a question if Joel and B was a Hall of Famer. I'm still saying no. I'm not saying he is. I'm saying his stat line for when he has played is absolutely at the level of a Hall of Famer. Absolutely. However, as much as I would like him to be a Hall of Famer, I don't think he is, but I'm pretty sure you are arguing that he was. I didn't say he was.
SPEAKER_02I'm just saying, like he has the production when played. It's just the argument that he hasn't played enough is, I mean, it's an adequate argument.
SPEAKER_03Right. And then that led us into another conversation. Derek Rose. Yes. Who is also look, and don't get me wrong, the product. I love Derek Rose. I love Derek Rose. The production when healthy's there. But I mean, bro, he got hit, he won the MVP, got hurt. The thing that he does couple of years I hurt him. His ceiling after the injuries for those couple of years was like a 16-point player. The thing that he has over Joel Embiid, though, is the youngest MVP ever. And I just Are we looking at MVP? They're both one-time MVPs. Yeah, but he was the youngest. And that's a more Hall of Fame work. I mean, some can make the argument that Joel Embiid could be a multi-time MVP. Absolutely. He just had to be playing at the same time where there was another center who was just. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, he was averaging like 34 games. You take their peaks, right? You take their peaks before we get into like all the NFL's talk. You take their peaks. And let's just say that they're both healthy. You take in Joker, or you take an embied. If they're both healthy? If they are both like if let's just say that Joel and B never had the injury problems. Look at them at their peaks. I'm probably still going Jokic. I'm going embied. He's a dog. Because one thing that I can say is I'm a hundred percent sure. Well, I can't obviously can't be a hundred percent, but I mean you can. You can say you're a hundred percent. If you took Jokic off that Denver Nuggets team and you swapped it with a healthy embied, there's no way that the Timberwolves with no D Vincenzo or Anthony Edwards are are winning that series. He just don't play no D. Because Jaden Daniels is or Jaden McDaniels isn't coming out here and mentioning all these players' names and saying just go at them because they don't play, they're all bad defenders, and then he he wouldn't have been able to include Embiid's on there. So he would have just been going at him and getting fucked up. Yeah, but the thing that Jokic has that Embiid does Jokic ain't soft either. I mean, Joel Embiid really, I mean he flops. He just, you know, he just he looks more clumsy than floppy. You know, I'm a big Joel and B guy. I told everybody he was gonna be sick when he first came in. We're a Kansas fan.
SPEAKER_02I was like, yeah, he's gonna be sick.
SPEAKER_03They're like, uh, he's barely played basketball. Man, he's sick. I didn't think his offensive bag was gonna be what it turned into. Well, it turned, man. But God, man, if he could, if he would have stayed healthy, he'd absolutely be a Hall of Famer. How old is he? 30? Something like that. Feels like it. Feels like he's at the end of his career, doesn't it? Yeah, he's not that like it feels like we got like two, three more years max. And then his knees are gonna like get it. With a guy his size, I mean, you almost kind of expect it though, with the injury history. Yeah. Well, what are your thoughts on the NBA playoffs so far? I haven't watched a ton of it.
SPEAKER_02I watched a lot I watched the most, like I watched the Orlando Detroit series for the most part.
SPEAKER_03That was a good series. That Cleveland Raptors serve. Yeah, yeah, I watched that series. I shout out James Harden. He beat the game seven curse. Nah, not enough pressure. Not enough pressure. He's gotta wait until there's something a little more meaningful than a second round appearance is on the line. Yeah. He he doesn't get to escape that ghost that easily. You don't get to come out here and perform great in the game seven of the first round and be like, oh, yep, nope, he's he's overcoming it. He's he's he's here. That was that was only his third game seven ever.
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SPEAKER_03Yeah, usually he lets his team down a lot further than before game seven.
SPEAKER_02I the I mean all the all the games have been decent, I guess. I haven't watched them all though. I haven't I didn't watch much of the Houston LA series. Man. I didn't I didn't watch a ton of the Celtics 76er series except like six and seven. I watched game six and seven.
SPEAKER_03That was a that was a s I mean none of the games were really good, but I mean coming back down from three to one's got a lot of. That's part of the problem. It's part of the problem with the NBA, is the fact that we can go into the playoffs and there'd be 30, 40 point blowouts. Yeah. Like I watched the New York Knicks beat the Atlanta Hawks by 50. In a game, was it game six? Yeah. It was the Hawks game seven. Literally. Like it's like Yeah, they got the soul beat out of them. I remember like looking up, like I got home and they were down like 40 at half. I was like, this can't be really dude. It was pitiful. It was pitiful. Yeah, like how did you even get to six games? Yeah, right. And then like out of the game. You're telling me that the Knicks are just that much better? No, there's no. No, I think I think that there's an effort level in there somewhere. That series is gonna be really good. I've been on the NHL playoffs pretty hard. They're they're insane. They're always insane, though. I have been watching some NHL playoffs. They're always incredible, man. I watched the Aves last night. That game was fucking it was tied to it was 4-4 when I turned it on. Buddy, it was 3-0 to start. The Aves went up 3-0 to start. They did beat the fuck out of them. Came out, they noticed. It was tied. It was tied. It was tied in the third period. Bro, they beat the fuck out of them.
SPEAKER_02This shit is crazy.
SPEAKER_03I you think they're going, you think they're winning it all? Who the ass? Yeah. They certainly have the best. I like the ass. Well, I believe I believe we had hit on it around the time of uh the Olympics, maybe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Was we were talking about how uh Connor McDavid just can't get it done when it matters. Got a little Dak Prescott in him.
SPEAKER_02Buddy. They're talking about him getting out of Edmonton.
SPEAKER_03There's a real look, there's a real chance that he could be a Nashville predator. Part of that's on him, though, right? Yeah, for sure. So dude, if he comes to the Preds, I mean, lit. I mean, you're gonna be excited, but like, fuck. You can only get so excited. That's the problem. He'll be in the same spot he's in. Just in a different place. He just won't have a Leon Dry Siddle. Right. He'll have less talent. Or a Ryan Nugent Hopkins. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, true. Yeah, just be worse. He gets to play with like a 40-year-old Steven Stamcos. He's gone. He'll be gone. Not if they bring in Big Jesus.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. He'll be he'll be gone. I I got some. They dropped all the numbers for the rookies. Nobody really cares about that. Carnell Tate got 14. That's not what I'm here to talk about about Carnell Tate.
SPEAKER_03Do you like the number? Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I mean, you know. I'm gonna buy I'm gonna buy a 14. I'd like to see Mikhail Lemon in that.
SPEAKER_02What in 14?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but he's not. He's nine. Yeah. I saw something. This is funny before we get into the shit about Carnell Tate. I thought this was funny as fuck. When they had said something about the like his number selection. I don't know if this is real or not, or if it was just like just somebody trying to be funny, but I it was hilarious. They said Nick Foles gave Mikhail Lemon his blessing for to wear nine. I didn't see that. He should. He won him a Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean a Philly special, bro. I I guess, but I mean, come on, bro.
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_03Does that abortalize you somewhere as a you know when you're a backup quarterback?
SPEAKER_02The funniest thing about the whole Mikhail Lemon choosing this number was the fact that he thought he was gonna be able to get Devontae Smith. Let me get that six.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Wasn't he the number one overall pick? Was Devonta Smith he was a first, he was a first round pick. I think they got him at like six. Devontae Smith? Yeah, he's a first-round pick. He wasn't number one. Can you fact check that for me? Yeah, he wasn't number one overall. He was first off a Heisman, though. Yeah. I don't know. I forgot about that. I forgot that he won a Heisman for the longest time. He was so fucking sick in college. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He was so sick in Bama, dude.
SPEAKER_03They really hindered him by going and getting AJ Brown, honestly. I swear.
SPEAKER_02Because man. You love a receiver to get another good receiver so they can't just double him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'd rather have a two than a one. I'd rather go get me a two than a one. If I have a one. They were their thought process was have two ones. They still have two. Devontae Smith was a first round pick, number 10 overall.
SPEAKER_0110 in 2021. He was 10 overall. Yeah, that's crazy. Think you're gonna get six from him? That's nuts. Yeah. What a crazy thing.
SPEAKER_03I mean, he can't, but I mean he can say, look, bro, you fresh off of a thousand and eight yards, eight hundred and thirty-three yards. Like, bro, you ain't the guy. That's crazy still. Whole time it's it's actually just because it's Jalen Hurts. And no, this is actually crazy to think. You look at it, you say, you know, we like Devontae Smith, right? Yeah. His career stats is 64 catches, 916, 95 catches, 1196, 81 for 1,066, 68, 833, and 7708 yards. Yeah. You know, it's given real Alec Pierce cop. That's crazy. Except I think we both have can be in agreement that Devontae Smith, Devontae Smith is a better wide receiver.
SPEAKER_02AJ Brown's gone this year. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him.
SPEAKER_03What do you think? What do you think that means for Smitty? I uh I mean, as a guy who has Devontae Smith on his dynasty roster, I hope it means that he just goes crazy.
SPEAKER_02I hope he ends up being sick as fuck.
SPEAKER_03Man, your wide receiving core is so nasty that like he could go crazy and still wouldn't start.
SPEAKER_02Shit. He could he could absolutely end up starting over Nico. I did.
SPEAKER_03Hey, we can get into this. Did you see these videos of CJ Stroud? He's back. Bro. Dude, CJ Stroud, he's lost the flab. He's done got swole. Oh, he's not fat anymore? I swear, look it up. Look it up.
SPEAKER_02CJ Stroud in the lab. He said, this talk, all this talk about him being trash, it's dead. All that shit's dead.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. It's all dead. He said, I'm really, I'm really back. Also, look, I hope that's the case too. He's back to try to get the bag. Hey.
SPEAKER_02Hey, more power to him.
SPEAKER_03He's trying to get the bag.
SPEAKER_02If he can secure a payday that makes him one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the M in the NFL. The window's closed. I can I can promise you this.
SPEAKER_03The window's closed. No, it's not. Oh, God.
SPEAKER_02I can tell you this.
SPEAKER_03If it happens, and it can happen, he's gonna join the BCA. Yeah, because he's a quarterback. Yeah, I'm just like, okay, fine. It's still you're joining the BCA. I mean, I guess he would beat the qualifications because he would get the bag off of one good season. The same thing with Bryce Young. If Bryce Young gets paid, he he becomes a member of the game. CJ Stroud, Bryce Young's not getting paid what CJ Stroud is, is he? Like I feel like we should both be able to agree that if the Panthers pay Bryce Young what they what the Houston pays CJ Stroud is.
SPEAKER_02Let me tell you this right now. If the Panthers win 11 games, regardless of what Bryce Young's stats are, he's getting paid.
SPEAKER_03He's getting paid a fucking job. What do you think about Bryce Young moving forward? Like I don't know. Do we think he's on like the upward trajectory for the long term now? I don't see. Like, does he look like do you think he's got like a long-term starter in him?
SPEAKER_02You know what makes it tough? It makes it tough because he is such a nice guy. You want to see him do well. Like he is such a good dude. All the videos of him and like his camps, like the youth camps that he does, dude, he is such a nice guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But you know, there's a lot of just nice guys out in the world, you know.
SPEAKER_02Look, man.
SPEAKER_03They do say nice guys finish last. Maybe she'd be a little asshole. Needs to have some dirt bag, and a little kid wants his autograph sign, spit on him. He needs to get traded to the Patriots. They'll show him how to be a dirt bag. They can do it with the best. He's gonna like take somebody's card and rip it. How about that? Fuck you.
SPEAKER_02Malik neighbors said that Carnell Tate wasn't even the number one on his own college football team. And I that was in response to him being drafted fourth overall.
SPEAKER_03It's just some Hayden shit. It's just some Hayden shit. I think he's mad because Carnell Tate got is gonna make more money than Malik Neighbors. I got news for you, Malik. You're not the number one on that team either. Yeah, I mean, the consensus says that there's not another wide receiver in NFL history that would be wide receiver one over Jeremiah Smith. That's just a fact. The hype for Jeremiah Smith is almost equivalent. Almost. I'm not saying it is. It's almost equivalent to what LeBron James was. Yeah. For real. Yeah, I don't I don't recall. I mean, and he's even more, but like I feel like the only wide receiver that I feel like has been talked about that I can remember in my lifetime anywhere near as close to Jeremiah Smith is Calvin Johnson.
SPEAKER_02Bro, they literally said there is there is clips online of people saying as an 18-year-old kid, as a freshman in college, he could have been not only the number one pick in the NFL draft, people said that he could be the best receiver in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03That's nuts. Dan Orlovsky. Hey man, then Dan O's got the got the insight. He was he was the first one on the uh Ty Simpsons of first round pick train. He was right. He had insider information. He got that from Diana Roussini. Who got it from Sean McVay? Oh man. He said the shot was so far in Washington he had to give her the scoop. Oh man. Man, she's probably gonna sign with like bar stool or something. I mean, she's fitting. Fitting. Now her news reports, she's gonna be getting on camera like topless. I can be a whore out in the open now. I don't have anything tying me down. I got divorced. Yeah. She lost her kids. They were the messy divorce. Her husband can't take her kids. They're not his.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Jesus Christ. One of them at least is not his.
SPEAKER_03I saw a report that the that it is on the rocks, but he still wants to reconcile with her. Man, what a she must be she must be bringing in a bag. What a guy. That'd be the only thing that could justify such heinous activity. He must he must work some shitty job like Pepsi or ATT. Man. Those are two solid jobs. You know? He must not be. I mean, maybe not compared to, you know, sleeping around for NFL scoops, but yeah, but like without the sleeping around part, like her job's really awesome. She's really got a big thing. I feel like it'd be fucking annoying, dog. I wouldn't want to sit over here and fucking get fucks for a story.
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SPEAKER_02Most people don't do that. I don't know if you're aware. She might be one of the few that are.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know, there's some people in every industry that sleep their way to the top. Yeah, but I'm saying, like in my in my Pablo.
SPEAKER_02You remember Pablo Torre?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You remember him? Now he's like a big investigative reporter.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know how much of his.
SPEAKER_03He might have been the PI behind Rossini. Oh man, could you imagine? No, that's funny. But yeah, no, no, I I I know what he's doing and shit. Like his job to me seems dope. He's the one that uncovered the shit about was it Kawhi Leonard and the door shit. Yeah, he was the conjugate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he absolutely was. But I mean, fuck, he's done a bunch of shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you know, a lot of people don't fuck with him because he's like a he's right exposed and shit. Yeah, he's uh he's what would they call that? Uh a whistleblower. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Pablo Torre. We fuck with him. We're we're not necessarily an interview podcast, but we would be for him. I got a shit ton of questions. He had so many questions to ask, bro. Shoot him an email, man. You never know. So hey, we're an up and coming podcast. Uh well, we're at least a we're uh I wouldn't refer to us as up or coming. I mean, we're up. We record. We are an up podcast.
SPEAKER_02We haven't came anywhere.
SPEAKER_03We're still getting off, we're still trying to get off the ground. It's tough. It's tough out here for a pimp. You could really help the game. You can be a real, you can be a real, you know, you can blow this thing up. Just tell, look, man. We've we've literally like uncovered a few conspiracies.
SPEAKER_02I think look, I think this is what I'm gonna do next week. No, fuck that. I'll just do it this week. I'll just hop on here and find these people's business managers, and I'm just gonna send, I don't know, like a couple thousand emails out. Yeah. And it's gonna be all people that they're gonna think you're spam. That's where the email's gonna go.
SPEAKER_03It's going straight to the jug folder.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna just I'm gonna be like, look, and it's gonna all be people that we fuck with. Like, wouldn't how cool would it be to interview John Daly?
SPEAKER_03That'd be a great interview. How how tell me about the days when you could just rip cigs and chug brews on the golf course? He's like, bro, I still do that. In some vibrant pants. Yeah, I fuck with him. Yeah, John Daly's the man. Maybe we could get us Tiger Woods. So, what were you drinking that day, Tiger? Don't let him drive here. We're gonna pick you up. He's gonna be like, nah, I'm good, bro. I'm gonna I'm getting there. Don't worry, Tiger. We will make sure you have a driver. We're gonna have to like, we're just gonna fly to him. We can't bring Tyler or Tiger Woods to our neck of the woods. He's gonna be like, Why the fuck would I do this interview?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the well see this is that's really the problem with doing interview is to having a place to do the interview. Like we could do it here. I just don't know how many people are gonna be like, yeah, the let me go to BFE Kentucky. Yeah, I'm gonna go to these this guy's house with two other two random dudes, his wife's there, he's got some dogs.
SPEAKER_03Man, it just seems odd. Seems out of place. Where's the baby oil? Oh, we do not where where's all the weird shit? We do not support Diddy, Sean Combs. We are definitely on the side of 50 cent here. Yeah, I mean, I like 50 Cent. Yeah, dude, 50 Cent's the man. Dude, but back to Malik Neighbors being a hating ass bitch. Can't talk too strongly about them because I need them this year. Yeah, it's your boy. I get it. I fuck with Malik Neighbors. I just don't like how he was so concerned. I'm gonna be honest with you, too. I got something else I want to add in there. The way he was talking about Caleb Downs when he got drafted to Dallas, some hoe shit. You don't like it? That's some hoe shit. Sound a little scared. Sounded very scared.
SPEAKER_01Sounded like a guy that got real terrified when he saw he was gonna have to play him twice a year.
SPEAKER_03Man, he's not even a corner. Right. He just knows that one of those times is on Met Life's field. I just said maybe Caleb will tear his ACL. Oh, Jesus. Oh my god. We don't wish that upon anyone. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, especially not him. Bro, people are calling him gold jacket.
SPEAKER_03That's nuts. That's I feel like if you're a gold jacket safety, you're you great. Yeah. They called him Taylor LeWan called him gold jacket. He's gonna be a guy with a gold jacket. They think he's that good. Yeah. That's crazy. Questions about his knee. That's a Michigan man, too, that said that. That's nuts. That's crazy. Maybe he's just setting himself up to be able to talk shit. I don't know. Caleb Downs is he is nice. His tape's unreal. Yeah, he is nice.
SPEAKER_02This tape's unreal. But my boy Carnell Tate, when asked about the whole situation, he said who. That's a good response in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03Shout out to you, Carnell. Disrespect and disrespect is crazy. I just, I just, it's crazy. The fact that he said who is if we as if Malik neighbors didn't have like a just an absolutely amazing rookie season. Followed that up with right before he tore his ACL. Shout out to him. Dropped like 45 for my fantasy team. Man. Oh, the Russell Wilson game. The last good game of Russell Wilson's career. Speaking of that, uh, did you see that there were talks for Rush going to be the backup for Gino?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. They uh I saw that.
SPEAKER_03I hope that's they're gonna find a way to make their quarterback room somehow worse. I hope that doesn't happen. I don't know. It's probably better than fucking Brady Cook. Yeah, I mean, you have those two options at quarterback. Here's some real news for you that's dropped. Tyrod Taylor signed with the Green Bay Packers. Boom.
SPEAKER_02Breaking. It's crazy, isn't it? That's news.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know.
SPEAKER_02I didn't know that uh Diego Pavia signed a three-year deal with the Ravens. It's not even really a three-year deal.
SPEAKER_03It's more like tryout. No, they said they said they were bringing them in for a meeting, and they were like, you know what, we're good. We're gonna sign you to a three-year deal. They gave no, it was like for real, like a $5,000 signing bonus.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, it's for real.
SPEAKER_03They're doing that for branding. From from what I heard, it was like a try-out. They're just trying to get some, they're just trying to steal some money. It's like a tryout, bro. He gets to go out there and try out. What if he makes a team? Come on, bro. It's fucking Diego Pavia. You're a big Pavia guy. I like Diego Pavia. Bro, my man's like 5'8. I like the the dog. The dog that he possesses. Man, he's not a j he's not any dog out there. If he if he in the NFL, if he is a dog, he's a chihuahua. Brother, him and Deuce Vaughn are fighting to see who's the shortest player in the NFL. That's fine and all. I'm just saying. There's short quarterbacks are a thing. Look at him. Kyler Murray. He's a starting quarterback in the NFL. And he's like three inches taller than Diego Pavia. That's funny. Do you only hate him because he's short? I don't like D. I didn't like him in college. Yeah, but like, do you apply that same logic to Ruben Bain's arms? There's a big difference between arm length and like not even being able to see over the line. Ruben Bain can't even get his arms to a tackle. I mean, I guess the good thing with Diego Pavy is one, we don't have to worry about him playing because if Lamar gets hurt, it's gonna be Huntley. Diego Pavio's not making an NFL roster. Like, he won't be on the team in training camp. You see UFL in his future? I see AFL. No, the CFL, he's already got the rights to the blue bombers. They already own his draft rights. They want they own his rights to be a backup. No, he'd probably go to the blue bombers and start. I don't watch shitty football leagues, so I'm gonna let you be the expert in that one. I don't watch, I don't watch the CFL. I don't even know where to watch the CFL. I'm sure you can probably watch it on like streamy.
SPEAKER_02Oh, here's some news that we uh streams. I don't think either one of those Dana White made his best effort to get rid of that. Fucking savage bitch. I like Dana White, but that was some fuck shit. Let the people get their games. Okay. Because, you know, there's some people that fucking Well, now all you gotta do is subscribe to uh Paramount Plus. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's for the fights. I'm talking about like there's people like me who are Nashville Predators fans who live in the Kentucky market, what are we, 70 miles outside of Nashville?
SPEAKER_03They can't watch the blue jackets. No, I can't even fucking watch the blue jackets. You don't get like a I don't even get fucking local games. You don't get like the Bally Sports Ohio or whatever. No man, it gets blacked out. I can't watch any of the Redskins. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's fucking stupid. They're gonna make you watch the Vanderbilt Commodores. So I'm gonna say, yeah, like I can watch Vanderbilt Commodore. You can watch the Titans. Yeah, I can watch the Titans. That's what matters, anyways.
SPEAKER_02But it's still, it's my point is like, you know, some of us use you know Stream East and crack streams for that. And he they took that away.
SPEAKER_03They said, you gotta buy the ticket. That's fucked up. They said you gotta buy the ticket to watch your local team is crazy.
SPEAKER_02It's crazy. And I still don't even know if it would work. Doubtful. I here's some news that we missed on draft night.
SPEAKER_03John was it Jonathan Grenard, the uh outside linebacker, traded to the Eagles. Yeah, and he signed a deal. Yeah, he signed a deal. Calf space is not real. Okay. Howie Howie strikes. I don't know how he does it.
SPEAKER_02He's dude, he's is he the best GM in the league?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, they're not I mean him and Les Sneed probably are like one and two. Them motherfuckers are gonna make some shit work. Man. Somehow, some way. You gotta get jealous. You get real jealous of not having guys like that. Yeah, bro. Like they're just sharks. Sometimes it's better to have a shark. We gotta we got a guy though. I think he's gotta be a little crude. He seemed like he's got some finesse. Who Chef? Old Chef Borganzi? Yeah, he he's giving he's giving like I got a little bit of dog in me. A tiny bit of dog. Seems like he might get a little dirt, he might have a little dirt bag in his blood. Yeah. I mean, maybe.
SPEAKER_02He might have a little bit of dirt bag. I can I can tell you, you can go get a couple guys that I know dirt bags. I uh George Pickens, did you know this? George Pickens tried to shop around before he said the reason he didn't sign his franchise tag was because he was gonna shop around.
SPEAKER_03Everybody was like, we don't want you either. Nah, well, I mean, he wanted a long-term deal. I mean, I would assume that he was asking to be one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL, if I'd guess. Yeah. And that was when everybody was like, no.
SPEAKER_02They're like, ah, we don't want to give you a you know what they said? They go through a mental eval. They're like, we want to see you drive your car in the parking lot first. We know where you're from. We know what you guys do. All right. We've also seen the antics.
SPEAKER_03You have to take a driver's class and a mental eval. He was like, no, I'm good. He's like, why would I do either one of those? There's no incentive for me to do that. There's no way you'll pay me afterwards. Zero chance. My draft value would immediately turn into a seventh round pick. Man. But his agent should be like, so what he's a little crazy. The crazy ones are the best. Yeah, I mean, you know. The crazy ones are the best. They burn bright, so it doesn't last as long. So that's gotta be what makes you a little bit scared. Yeah, I mean, for paying him long term. TO head case. Man, they burn bright though. He also burned for a while. Yeah, TO didn't. A B didn't. I mean, yeah. And not as long as it could have. Man, whatever, whatever was in that damn, what was it? Chyrotherapy or whatever he did, where he froze his feet. Whatever that did really fucked him up. Hey, that was. A lot of people want to test it to Vontez Berfect, but I think it was the freezing his feet. Dude, those Vontez Berfect hits were brutal. Hey, Juju got his leak back. They were brutal. Man, fuck that, bro. Because before that, before that, no. We attribute it to that, but we also forget that Antonio Brown dropkicked a man before that. It's true.
SPEAKER_01He didn't.
SPEAKER_03I saved that as my wallpaper for the longest time.
SPEAKER_02Did he dropkick somebody?
SPEAKER_03Not because, not because I'm a Steelers fan, obviously, but because I just thought that shit was so funny. Yeah. The crazy ones burn bright. I think that's my biggest. I remember watching that live. That shit would have me weak as fuck when I watched the man literally just come down and just drop kick bruh out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_02What a gangster thing to do, though.
SPEAKER_03Man, are the you see any uh are there any moves that you want to see around the league before, like, you know, now that the draft is over, the majority of free agencies aren't gone. Like, is there anybody you want any moves you want to be seeing made?
SPEAKER_02Like, there's a couple things that could happen. I mean, Juwan Jennings hasn't signed a contract anywhere. Debo hasn't signed anywhere. There's a couple different players that haven't signed contracts yet. Debo might be cooked. Yeah, he's trash. He's done. He was done two years ago. Juwan Jennings isn't, he's not dead yet. It'll be interesting.
SPEAKER_03I guess he just wants too much money.
SPEAKER_02David Njoku had a visit with the Chargers.
SPEAKER_03I like that for them. Yeah, too. I like it, Njoku. Talk about a damper on the Hironde Gatson fans. Huh. That's tough. You got you struck at you struck while you hot while the iron was hot. Man. Sometimes you got to. Man played like what two games. He's nice though. Like he's got the talent. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. It would be nice for the dude. They've they've loaded up.
SPEAKER_03They probably they probably have my favorite offseason. The Chargers? Yeah. They still have Quentin Johnston. Yeah, they oh yeah, there you go. There's some more news. Quentin Johnston picked up his fifth-year option. That's shocking. Terribly shocking. Because he's not great. What that tells me is there might be some belief in him this year. You know what that tells me? Do you know what that tells me? What does it tell you, brother? It tells me that maybe Trey Harris isn't that good. Yeah. Maybe. Well, I don't know. I mean, you still got you, or you could just say we're giving him time, you know. No reason to like dot. You know, there's no reason to move off of him. Quinn Johnson. You definitely don't extend it, but he's gotta be up there in drops, right? Yeah. He did he got better last year, though. He had a pretty solid season last year. Did he he got a thousand? He's got Mike McDaniel. Did he get a thousand? I don't know. I can tell you. He probably had a very Alec Pierce-like season. Yeah. And guess what? One of us loves, and one of them is loved and the other one's hated. Alec Pierce doesn't drop the ball. He just doesn't get it thrown a lot to him. Yeah, right. See, I think the difference is is Quentin Johnson got thrown the ball quite a bit. He just dropped the ball quite a bit. He dropped it a lot. Trust me, I know. Quentin Johnson. He got passed around our fantasy league.
SPEAKER_02Who, Quentin Johnson?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Don't worry, brother. He's got home now, don't he?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yep. He's always you're like Motel 6. You'll always keep the lights on for him.
SPEAKER_03Man, you got a spot with me. Don't worry. This roster spot ain't going nowhere. I can't see his. Our fantasy drafts coming up. Yep. I'm trying to make a move for Cardell Tate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, here we go. I got two different things that we can talk about here. Alright. And then we can probably end this thing because I ain't got shit else.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he definitely didn't get a thousand yards. He didn't? I don't think so. Oh, man. That's tough.
SPEAKER_02JJ McCarthy. Oh. He ranked us top five wide receivers in the NFL. I think that we can end the Alec Pierce, Zay Flowers debate. I believe you have won that debate. Because according to nine, I'm in Ross St.
SPEAKER_03Brown's number one. Whatever, I'll give it to you. I'll take that. Jamar Chase is number two. Whatever, I'll give it to you. That's where it gets a little crazy. Crazy ain't the word, but alright, I'm ready.
SPEAKER_02We got DK Metcalf sliding in at three here. Woo! It's tough. Alright. That's nuts. We got four is Puka Nakua. That's a little low. Alright. And then five. Here we go. You ready for this? I bet you can't guess it. It's Zay Flowers. I had no idea. I wasn't aware that he was a top five receiver in the NFL. I was the guy who said that Alec Pierce was better.
SPEAKER_03I was wrong. Clearly. Yeah. You know, that sounds like some shit. It sounds like there might be some turmoil between JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson.
SPEAKER_02I mean, if I was Justin Jefferson, I'd be like, bro, are you out of your fucking mind?
SPEAKER_03That's gotta be some beef, bro, right? Like, are you crazy?
SPEAKER_02Like you could take, like, I don't mind Puka. I don't mind Amon Ra. I don't mind Jamar.
SPEAKER_03We've said that, we both have said this. I'm more of a tiers guy. Right. All of those would absolutely be tier one receivers. Yeah. So if you wanted to rank Amon Ra one or Jetta's one or Puka one, like I'm not gonna argue with you.
SPEAKER_02Right. Facts. You know what I mean? Like whatever you wanted to do there. But I mean, Zay Flowers is more than one.
SPEAKER_03What's more absurd? What's more absurd? Is it DK at three or is it Zay Flowers at five?
SPEAKER_02They're both crazy. DK at three is probably more absurd, to be honest. I don't yeah, to me, has he ever even been a top ten receiver?
SPEAKER_03Arguably, yeah. Yeah, like you'd have to make an argument for it. Yeah, right. And and you know, and if you're and if I have to make an arg if I can make an argument between you and five other players for those couple of spots, you're not really a top ten receiver. Yeah. What what's the great what's the great quote where he says if you got two quarterbacks, you got zero. Mad. You know what I mean? I mean, that's probably not relative. It's not, but but yeah. I mean, let's I'm just gonna rattle off ten receivers that I think are better. Yeah, easily. And I mean, I might start running out at like nine, where you can start to have the conversation, but I mean, you know, this is no particular order. Say Brown, Chase, Jefferson, CD Lamb, Puka. I'm gonna throw Devontae Adams still in the top ten. I'm just hold on. AJ Brown, regardless of the numbers, he's still a top 10 receiver. Here's another one that I'm putting over. I like Drake London. I think he's top ten. I would take Drake London over Garrett Wilson. I don't even know if these are top 10 receivers, but they're receivers that I'm putting over DK Metcalf. Right. Oh shit. Hold on, I gotta get a couple of more. Maligue neighbors. Maligne neighbors, yeah. Throw him up there. Yeah. Shit, bro. Honestly, if we're being real, bro, I'd throw I'd take T. Higgins over DK Metcalf. I was just about to say that.
SPEAKER_02I was just about to say I'd take T. Higgins over DK.
SPEAKER_03I would JSN. JSN, yeah, obviously. Hell, I mean, we could put McBride as a wide receiver. Trey McBride, Brock Bowers. Yeah, I mean, they're wide receivers for in the grand scheme of things. Their volume says they're wide receivers.
SPEAKER_02I would rather have both Trey McBride and Brock Bowers on an NFL team.
SPEAKER_03Over Zay Flowers and DK Lick. Yeah, probably so. Yeah, it's a bad list. Oh, that's rough. Yeah. Look, Zay at five is also probably. Shit, George Pickens?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Make a strong case. This might be getting a little outrageous, but I might take Javison Williams over both of them. He's definitely faster. But the thing about Detroit. No, I would take DK Metcalf over.
SPEAKER_02Because he's gonna fight whoever's in the Detroit fans uniform. He did get the charges were dismissed. Here is some news.
SPEAKER_03They said it's because he he said he wasn't beaten enough. He didn't smack them hard enough.
SPEAKER_02Here you go. You'll love this. We've talked about this all offseason. Patrick Mahomes is on track to make it back for OTAs. So, I mean, as a guy who told me that he was gonna be back week one, and I said no. Brother, you were right again. You're right about Zay Flowers, you were right about Patrick Mahomes, and you're on fire. You know what we're on track for? We're on track for you to be right about Geno Smith and the New York Times.
SPEAKER_03We're trending in the right direction. Because you have you have been striking, striking hot. Oh, bro. Before we move on with this, like I just had to go look back. I had to go look back at this dog because this is actually kind of crazy. DK Metcalf was 28th in receiving yards last year. Woo! I'm gonna give you some notable names that are above him. Right. Some of these are gonna obviously we named them. And you know, this is look, I'll say this. Looking at this, I'm gonna say, okay, what you call it might be on to something. I'd rather have Nico Collins than DK Metcalf. Absolutely. Nine might have been on to something because Zay Flowers was seventh in receiving yards last year. All right. With 1,200. He only had five tutties, but Olave A's over him. I said Jamison Williams. Jameson Williams was ninth in receiving last year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he had a he had a great second half of the season. Seven touchdowns. When my boy, when the dirtbag of dirtbags, Dan Campbell, took over play calling. Jameson.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you're really gonna love this. Jamison Williams came to life. Who do you think the next person's about? To say had more receiving yards than DK Metcalf. Who? Alec Pierce. Yeah. Your boy. Yeah. Give me Alec Pierce over DK Metcalf. Bro, Kyle Bill.
SPEAKER_02You know, Alec Pierce is is DK Metcalf just white.
SPEAKER_03Michael Wilson had more receiving yards than DK Metcalf. New Titan, Tennessee Titan Wandale Robinson. Shit. For for 13 less million dollars had more yards than DK Metcalf. It's a good bargain. DK Metcalf had a whopping 850 and 6 last year, and the quarterback plays a lot worse. On paper. You don't think Aaron's coming back? You don't think Aaron's coming back? Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to, but I mean he's older. This is a crazy stat. B. John Robinson had 20 more catches than DK Metcalf last year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I bet Christian McCaffrey had 20 more catches than B. John Robinson.
SPEAKER_03You would be correct. 20. Christian McCaffrey had a hundred and tw 102 catches.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's insane. Insane. Is he gonna have a gold jacket?
SPEAKER_03McCaffrey? Yeah. Absolutely. Gold jacket? Yeah. Okay. Alright, I'm just I'll just I'll see where we're at. I mean, you don't think he you not think he's not? Yeah, no, he's he's absolutely had that type of career. I'm just gonna be able to do that. I mean, you know, unless he just unless he just so happens to continuously be on the ballot with Derrick Henry. But Derrick Henry's first ballot. Yeah, should be. Unanimous. Should be. Is Mike Evans? This is the great debate of Hall of Famers. Is Mike Evans first ballot? See, you know, this gets tricky. I'm gonna say yes because of like the It's like a longevity thing. You know, it's like the same argument that people use to call LeBron the GOAT. Like, when you look at it, okay, like he never led the league in catches, he never led the league in yards, he never led the league in touchdowns, but he did good enough for so long. It's like Frank Gore. Yeah, like Frank Gore's probably gonna be a Hall of Famer if he's not already. And it's just because you never looked at Frank Gore as the best, he just played for for fucking ever. He was sick as fuck in this world. Mike Evans is gonna make the Hall of Fame strictly off the fact that like he tied that Randy Moss record. Or not Randy Moss, the Jerry Rice record.
SPEAKER_01He's sick. He's sick, man. Shout out, I think he's first ballot.
SPEAKER_03You think Mike Evans is a first ballot Hall of Famer? I mean, you're probably gonna give him a little bit of love for the for the Super Bowl rig. He had I think his best season was with Jameis. And that that I mean that tracks, right? The 30-30 season. Yeah. One of the greatest quarterback seasons of all time. I don't know how great it was. It was definitely an anomaly. Incredible. Definitely a one-on-one. Hard to do. It's hard for your quarterback, your your coach to have that much faith in you. I struggled to throw 30 picks on Madden. Anyone that knows you knows you are a very prone to picks. Very prone to picks. Now throw one in a heartbeat. So will James. I'm actually like going through this list of like receiving leaders, and I'm just like, dear God. It just last year was such a weird year, dog. It was. That's the NFL, though.
SPEAKER_02That's what makes it great. I, you know, this year's probably gonna be a lot of the same, I guess.
SPEAKER_03I mean, Wandale Robinson having 20 more or 15 more catches than AJ Brown. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you would never say that.
SPEAKER_03Thinking of Wandale Robinson being 15th in the NFL and receiving yards is crazy.
SPEAKER_02It's also what happens when, you know, like their whole receiving core was dead. Yeah, that is true.
SPEAKER_03There was a big fish out there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. A lot of targets to be had when Malik neighbors isn't there.
SPEAKER_03Man, if only Drake London, Drake London only played 12 games and was still almost a thousand-yard receiver. He's cursed. Yeah, they hate him. Poor dude. Poor dude.
SPEAKER_02It got no better for him either.
SPEAKER_03Hey, look though, man. All signs point to them drafting another one next year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I just hope he's not.
SPEAKER_03Wouldn't want my quarterback to be a lefty. No. Unless it's the hefty lefty. R.I.P. R.I.P. R.I.P. My man was out there slanging it in the backyard football leagues.
SPEAKER_02Didn't he? He had a cup of tea in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. He was on the he got a Super Bowl with the Giants.
SPEAKER_02Hell yeah. And that rings would have tipped him over the edge. Said I don't got nothing else, brother.
SPEAKER_03You got anything else? I don't either, man. That boy fought through it. The flu game. Flu game. For episode 20. Episode 20, man. We appreciate y'all spending 20, 20 episodes worth of your time with us. Man. This is all one of these days it'll all be worth it. We'll look back and be like, I remember the like eight people a week that was listening to us for the first 20 episodes. Yeah, those eight people should tell eight more people. Man. And then look, just tell a friend. Tell a friend. Tell a friend. We're gonna start doing like giveaways or some shit like that to get people to listen. I don't have anything to give away. Follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, all that good shit. I can give them a pool day. I will give you a cigarette. Oh shit, man. Yeah, bro. It is. Well, look, look, we're in the cave right now. Weather's getting warm. One of these days we're gonna get frisky. We're gonna have live from the pool. Live from the pool. And we're just gonna have candyballs in the background and shit. Just like that. Yeah. Hey boy. We're not gonna do that. We'll start. We'll start. Shit's about to start ramping. It's gonna die down for a little bit. No, no, we got one more story. One more story. Because this is funny as fuck. Did you see that uh obviously the Brandon Sorsby story came out? Did you see he's uh about to enter like if this shit fails, like he's going to the supplemental draft?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because he he I think he they said he's not gonna be able to play.
SPEAKER_03Obviously. He was gambling. You're probably not gonna draft him in the supplemental draft, right? The Titans should take a chance. I win it. Why? He's a gambler. So what? It's not good for the integrity of your league to bring someone. We got a reformed gambler on the roster, allegedly. My band, yeah, but my bands is placing. They said that my bands had, you know, he has a problem. They said he was placing thousands upon thousands of one dollar bets. And like live bets, like the next drop play being a run. Sounds like me. You're doing the micro bets. You're you're tripping. The one dollar bets. Nah, bro, but I'm saying my man was betting like a a a dollar on like next play to be a pass. Like, yeah, he's sick. Yeah, that's a real problem. It's bad enough to have a problem just betting, you know, 10 parlays or some shit like that. Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02Betting, like betting a hundred would come on on a Tuesday, and it was like smoking.
SPEAKER_03I bet they throw the ball. I bet they throw the ball here. Third and ten. I bet it's an incomplete pass. Shout out to him though. Because he was on Indiana's rosters betting on them to win games before Signet.
SPEAKER_02He is gonna go to the C uh to the UFL.
SPEAKER_03He needs to go to the Las Vegas Raiders.
SPEAKER_02He's gonna go, no, he's gonna go to the UFL and he's gonna be nice, and he'll get it, he'll get his he'll get his chance.
SPEAKER_03The Raiders are gonna sign him so that way Mendoza and Kirk Cousins can just be his life coach. They said, you know, we want this guy to have a promising future, whether it be in the NFL or not, we're gonna save him. Putting him in a roof amongst godly men. We're gonna give him more money so he can go and bet. Spend his day out in the casino.
SPEAKER_02One of these days he's gonna hit big. Don't worry.
SPEAKER_03Just like me. That's what they all say. Hey, he all he needs. Look. There you go. One last thing. All he needs is just one subscription. All he really needs. I swear to God. We should DM him.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah. This is true. I uh they said they're not gonna trade Will Levis, the Titans.
SPEAKER_03Does that excite you? I'm just done with Will Levis. I'm so bad. I just hope I don't have to see him on a football field next year. If you do, it's not a good sign. It means we're gonna be in the Jeremiah Smith sweepstage.
SPEAKER_01I hope he's taking that next step. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah, Justin Bother Flu game, man. We out.