First Round Draft Recap

The gang gets in here and recaps the first round of the draft, talk about some surprising picks, and much more!

Transcript

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We are live from the cave. It's episode 19.

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Episode 19.

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It's almost 20.

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We're gonna dive a little bit more into the draft. We got cut early, round one.

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Yeah, we didn't get cut early today. We uh uh well we went through the first ten, but didn't really go through the first ten. It was just kind of like a reaction.

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Yeah. But now that now that the dust has settled, we've had some time to think about it. You know, what what do you what do you think? What where do you want to start?

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I thought it was a fairly interesting draft. There was five wide receivers. There were a lot of trades that that went in the first round, which is I think it was like a I think it tied for like a record. Which I didn't think was gonna happen.

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There were a lot, there were a lot of trades too.

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There was a lot of trades. I think all the teams that picked twice in the first round kind of went crazy. We had a big surprise. Some people say that the Carnell Tate pick was a surprise, but no surprise was bigger than Ty Simpson at 13. I think we can start there. Bro, I think we talked about that a while ago. Ty Simpson at 13. Some people were saying you could get him at pick 36. Oh, Dano.

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They said that Dan Orlovsky's running victory laps around ESPN. Is he? Oh yeah, he was saying that he was better. I said, Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's better than Mendoza. I don't necessarily know that he's good, but like, or going to be good, but you feel good about the situation that he's going to for sure.

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Oh yeah. Well, he gets to sit behind a guy. He gets to watch a guy for a year or two. Yeah. How do you think uh Matthew Stafford feels about that? I think that I will if I was him, I wouldn't give a fuck. It obviously bugged the fuck out of Sean McVeck.

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Yeah, he looked pissed. He looked hot. He's like, look, man, just to make things clear, this is Matt's team. Everybody was projecting like Malachi Lemon to go to and I don't really understand the like why everybody wanted them to have a get a wide receiver. Like I understand the Devontae Adams age things, getting a weapon. I would have liked them to go with Sadiq before I would have liked them to take my Malachi Lemon. We still got Devontae Adams. I mean, yeah, he's getting older, but Puka Naku, I saw, I mean, you really didn't necessarily need a wide receiver. I could understand going after a tight end. That makes a little bit more sense.

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But like I mean, they have they already have 13 on the roster. Yeah, but none of them are good. They did draft another tight end, though.

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But I mean, yeah, but what what could a s like an athletic freak like Sadiq have added to that Rams team? Yeah, for sure.

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I look, I you know, I do he is an athletic freak, but I I'm weary. I don't hate his production profile is almost non-existent.

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But you know, but like that's the thing, and that's one thing, and I agree with you there, because I like to see my my players be productive as well. Like, especially when you're like, okay, if you were the if you're this athletic, why were you not more productive?

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Yeah, like you're running a 4-3, and you know, you watch the highlights, the highlights are incredible. It's a large man running very fast past people. But my problem is is everybody in the NFL is a large man that runs fast. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody is somewhat of an athletic freak. Yeah. Obviously, you know, people are oh my goodness. Wiz Khalifa. We got Wiz Khalifa in Pittsburgh. But everybody in the NFL is kind of a freak. You want to know one of the bigger surprises to me of the first round, besides Ty Simpson, was Ruben Bain going all the way at 15. Yes. Thought that was crazy.

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Like him falling that far. I mean, he I I look, I think Tampa got a great got a great player in a great spot.

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Yeah. They went defense heavy.

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And uh and one thing, and it's really crazy, is like I wonder if his arm length caused him to fall that far far, it's crazy. Because, like, bro, when you turn on the film and you watch Ruben Bain, like, I mean, he's just there. Apparently, it wasn't just the arm length, it was also the hand size. Man, did it stop him doing anything in college? No. We've seen him the same people that are getting drafted tonight or this weekend, we've seen Ruben Bain destroy on the football field. I agree. Week in, week out.

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I don't hate Ruben Bain. I just think that it's hilarious that the whole arm length and hand size thing's that big of a deal.

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Man, and I'm I'm surprised. I feel like the Ravens should have taken him.

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The oh, that'd been nice. They didn't. So we're gonna let's go through, let's go through the first. You got Fernando first. Everybody knew that was happening. Alvarice to the David Bailey's first. He's been 24 hours with Max Crosby so far. He's already came out on stage and said the word fuck. Uh he's he's really gonna adopt the Raider way. Man, we love Fernando to the Raiders.

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It's good for fantasy. Hopefully. I mean, he's still got to come out there and be something. David Bailey to the Jets. I like that for them. I think the Jets had a good first round. They did. I didn't get to dive like super deep into the rest of the draft because of other things, but I I like what the Jets did in the first round.

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Then you get Jeremiah, which you were very clearly hurt about going at three to the Cardinals.

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Yeah, man. And here's my thing for the for Carrot for Arizona. I don't I don't understand it for them. Like I do. I mean, obviously, you can't necessarily pass up that kind of talent, but it's like you just signed Tyler Algier. You got James Conner coming back, you still had Trey Benson, who all like James Conner looks productive before he got hurt. Trey Benson was okay before he got hurt. You brought in Tyler Algier, which I mean that's not a big thing, but I mean it's just like you're undoing everything, like you extended James Conner. None of it matters. Your running back room is more expensive than your wide receiver room. It just doesn't matter. You're paying more for running backs than you are anything.

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I don't know. I don't know if they got to three and they were just like, fuck it, we're gonna do it. Maybe they thought they had David Bailey in their head. I don't know. I don't know what I don't know what sense it makes taking Jeremiah Love. I get it. He's probably the best player in the draft. Yeah. Probably him or him or Caleb Downs. I don't hate taking him at three. He is the highest paid running back in the NFL now. Which is crazy. He makes 50, he'll make $51 million completely guaranteed. Nice. Yeah, shout out to him.

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That doesn't even include his fifth-year option, does it? I don't know. I'm pretty sure you're if he's the guy, that fifth year option gets pretty expensive.

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Obviously, they would probably decline it and pay him instead, but you just know these guys like James Cook and they side these bags. They're like, I have 800 carries in the NFL. I've been here done that. I have 800 carries to the NFL. This guy hasn't taken a snap yet. Man. I get it. I I would have done the same thing. If he was there at four, I would hope the Titans would have taken.

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I feel like they were going to, and that's why it kind of feels that way with the uh that's why it feels that way kind of with the Carnell Tate pick for the Titans makes me feel like, okay, we were definitely getting him a weapon. We thought we were getting Jeremiah. So like after he got drafted, we were just like, okay, we're we're taking a guy for Cam. Yep. I don't know. There's gonna be discussions. I mean, with Carnell Tate, I think he's probably the safest wide receiver as far as like he might have the highest floor. I don't think he's got the highest ceiling. I don't think so either. I think Tyson's probably got the highest ceiling out of everybody.

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Yeah, I agree.

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But I will say the best hands in the draft are Cardinal Tate. He didn't have a drop last year. And a lot of people are gonna make a thing talking about some, oh, he wasn't even the best player on his team. Well, the best player on his team was the best player in the country.

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The best player on the team is a generational. The best player on the team is a generational wide receiver. Like he's gonna be number one. Right.

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I mean, you yeah, you put him on any roster, he's the best one. I don't think that makes it and it's uh and there's m it's the same thing that goes on. Like, I mean, was a book the best riff wide receiver on the same on the team? No. You know?

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Yeah. I to be honest with you, I don't know if he was better than Carnell Tate. I uh we got Arvell Reese at five to the Giants. I like that for them. We uh I don't have I mean I don't have much to say about it. I I'm not the biggest Arvell Reese fan, but he is a freak athlete. They have a bunch of edge rushers, it doesn't necessarily make sense.

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It's just gonna be kind of hard to f I don't know if they'll necessarily utilize him in that role. Like you were saying.

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Yeah.

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Like you think he's gonna play more like linebacker?

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Yeah, he definitely could absolutely play off ball. It's a little odd, but whatever. Whatever. I know you're not a big fan of that. Not a big fan of that. But they have if he does, if he is an edge rusher, I mean they have four. They have four. They're gonna play them all at the same time. That's so dumb. Yeah, it's weird. Unless you could move Brian Burns to DT, but I I don't see that happening. And then how do you say my boy's name from LSU, the corner? Mansor? Delane. Yeah, Mansor Delane, is that how you say it? Yeah. Yeah, he's a dog. A lot of people say that they reached on him. He's a dog. I mean, have you watched him? Yeah, I mean, he's nice. Yeah, he's nice. I like his size. I'm not gonna, I'm honest, I'm not gonna sit over here and say. No, he's not the big one. I'm not gonna sit over here and say anything bad about what the Chiefs do in the draft. They kind of have my respect.

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Yeah, I mean, you feel good about them taking a corner. Yeah, they've historically done well at that. I mean they know what the they obviously know what they want. And the thing is, and here's the biggest thing about it, and I'm not saying that he's going to be this, but historically speaking, recently, the top ten, the corners that go in the top ten have hit. Facts. I mean, JC Horn, PS2, Sauce, and then uh Witherspoon, Devin Witherspoon.

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We got Sonny Styles at seven to the commanders. You like that?

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I love it. You like Sonny Styles.

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You want him to be a Tennessee Titan. I did want Sonny Styles to be a Tennessee Titan.

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I like that for them. I mean, he should certainly help that defense. They need it. They absolutely need it.

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Dan Quinn, this is this is probably a pretty big year for Dan Quinn. Oh, let's make a break. He will most certainly be out of a job if they do not perform.

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Yeah. I mean, he should almost be out of the job if they perform, and the defense is terrible.

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Some people didn't think that the Saints were going to take a wide receiver here, but they took Jordan Tyson at eight. It's a big big help for Mr. Shuck. Yeah, I I they could be dangerous. They could be sneaky good. They could be a sneaky good team next year. For sure. Shucks nice. You get Travis. You got Olave back. You get Olave. I mean, what what's my boy Johnson? What's the tight end's name?

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Juwan Johnson.

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Juwan Johnson. Yep, he's nice. Devon Vale can obviously be a good third receiver. They could have a solid offense.

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Yeah, potentially. Obviously, it's all going to depend on Shuck.

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And then here's another team that I think had a I hate to say it, but a pretty good draft. And it was the Cleveland Browns. This is at least a good first round. Yes. Spencer Fanoo. Fano. Fano. Offensive tackle. Utah nine.

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Man.

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Need dog.

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They had a great old line. They needed it. Now you I like them adding that. You get somebody to protect Shador, if that's the guy. It should help in the run game as well.

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What if it's Deshaun Watson? I mean.

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Like who's better? I mean, Deshaun Watson, the the only thing that's hanging on to the th him in the NFL is his contract.

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He would be cut if it wasn't.

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And he's getting some he's getting some time. He's like extending his career a little bit just because of what he did, as if like, you know, we're not so far away from that that it doesn't even matter.

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So it doesn't matter, is what you're saying. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't see Does should does does Deshaun Watson have a chance to be the starting quarterback?

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I mean, I'm sure he has a chance because I mean he's not anything with anything special. I think I think Shador's clearly the one.

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Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. We'll come back to the Browns. Francis, uh, what's it how you say his last name? Malagoa. Malagoa. Miami tackle. Just a dog. It's great for Cam Scatabo. There was an argument that he was the best tackle in the class. He said that he loved Cam Scataboo because he loved a running back that sets the tone. I agree. He's a dog. I agree. Dogs respect Goblin.

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Malik Neighbors wasn't a big fan of that pick. He was not. Can you blame him? Uh no. He wanted them to draft Caleb Downs.

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He said he would rather play, he would rather him play on his team than have to play against him. He sounded scared.

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Yeah. I didn't love the sound of that.

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He sounded terrified. Especially when the next pick, the Cowboys trade up to 11 from 12 and then draft Caleb Downs.

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Man. That that's probably the steal of the first round for sure. Caleb Downs? Yeah, I mean, he I mean he's arguably the best player in the class.

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To me, the Cowboys really went out there and addressed their defense.

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Yes. Because they later went and got that edge rusher.

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Yeah. They could be the big winners. Oh, yeah. No, they absolutely are. They could be the big winners. Caleb Downs is a dog, and he'll probably be pretty sick in the NFL. Caden Proctor at 12 to the Dolphins. It doesn't move the needle. It doesn't move the needle.

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They didn't get any better as far as I'm concerned.

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They were pretty bad. They drafted a wide receiver in the third round that tore his ACL middle of the year. He probably won't even be available until mid-year. It doesn't make a ton of.

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I mean, their team's so bad, it really didn't make a difference either.

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We get the Ty Simpson pick at 13.

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Probably the biggest shock of the draft to some. I get it completely. We've already touched on it a little bit, but you know, him being able to go and sit behind Stafford for some time, learn from Sean McVay. Like, this is what you know good organizations do, this type of shit. Like, who cares if Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay are pissed off from a GM perspective? Like you're looking at the long term of the team.

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Oh, I mean, it definitely makes sense. Yeah.

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It's like, because here's the thing. I mean, they were talking about Stafford playing last year. And then it was like, oh, are he going to play again? Like, what if after this year, you know, he's like, all right, I'm out. And then now you're without a quarterback and you don't have a top 15 pick.

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Do you think Ty Simpson could be the guy?

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Potentially. I mean, look, anybody that goes to one of those quarterback whispers and then gets to sit behind it and learn. Like, who cares if he didn't get to play? Like, what if the Chiefs didn't draft Mahomes because they had Alex Smith? Who is a capable quarterback?

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I I don't like Ty Simpson personally. Is it just because he only played one year? Well, like, does he just not have enough experience? The production's definitely not there if that's what you're asking. I mean, he played he played pretty well. I uh he's smaller. I don't know, I just don't like him. He does the he does have some things that I do like. His escape ability's decent. He seems to be able to operate under pressure. Yeah. I uh a little short for my liking. But whatever. You know, I'm not You're right. If you go to Sean McVay or KOC or any of these guys. Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, any of these guys that seem to have their way with quarterbacks or have what they like with quarterbacks. There had to be, I mean, Les need absolutely at some point was like, hey, what do you think of Ty Simpson? Yeah. Like, I don't think that he's gonna sit over here and draft him if he's like, I just don't think he's gonna be a NFL quarterback.

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And maybe, I mean, and who's to say that Sean McVay doesn't actually like the pick?

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Yeah. Oh, well, I mean, the clip that we see is just that. It's a clip.

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Right.

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You know what I mean?

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I mean, surely God.

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We have no idea the full story of it.

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Yeah, I mean, they did come out and say that they're a lockstep, which obviously that could be a PR thing just because they have it looked, but I just it would be surprising to me that they weren't.

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They should be. They're successful, so that makes me think that they are. I uh normally teams that aren't successful do shit like that.

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Yeah, and I mean, you know, like when they've been on record. Yeah, right, exactly.

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Yeah, Mike Frable was fucking livid about that. The dirt bag. Yeah. Fucking loser.

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No, I'm like moving on to the Ravens pick. I don't, I'm not even gonna try to pronounce Bro's name, but the the big ass offensive guard from Penn State.

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Yeah, I was hoping you do how to say his name. He's massive. Yeah, he's huge. Yeah, 6'4, 320s a lot of.

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It's a good pickup for them. You put you add to your offensive line. Had to have it. Especially after losing Linderbaum. Like, I mean, I know they're two different positions, but like still filling a hole on the offensive line is good. They needed that. Had to have it.

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It's a good pick for the Ravens. They didn't need a ton of stuff. O-line, D-line. That's normally where they need to focus at. Yeah. They got a great linebacker. They got great corners. They got a great safety.

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We already talked about the next two picks, so we really don't have to go over Bang and Sadiq.

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Yep, both are good.

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Like those for both of the situations that they're going to.

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Yeah.

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I think, bro, I think the Jets are going to be better than what people think. I don't. I don't think they're going to be good, but you know, like this might be a six. This might be a six point.

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Look, I will say this about first. Aaron Glenn has surprised me. It seems that the Jets came extremely prepared for the draft. Yeah. It seems that they did their homework. They got their guys. I, you know. Yeah, salute to them. I think they did, I think they did great. But this is also a time of year where everything looks good. Yeah, right. Everything, not only does everything look good, but these guys, they make these picks and then they stand up and they clap in those war rooms, and they might be tanking the franchise for the next five years.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's that time of year people's lives are on the job or jobs are on the line. Yeah.

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These can really these bad decisions can really cost you. At 17, you got the Lions taking Blake Miller, offensive tackle. I like that. He likes it.

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A lot of people don't like it, but I mean, you their offensive line took a step back. You got somebody you can put in opposite of Panay Sewell now.

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He is a guy that matches the Dan Campbell way.

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Right.

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I love it.

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You know that they're you know they're gonna play hard. Yeah. Like they're gonna get back to running the football. It should be improved. And if it does, like I'm gonna be excited about it.

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This is the this is if I'm a Lions fan. This is a pick that a lot of people were like, this is this is one of the players with the bigger upside of the draft. It's Caleb Banks, defensive tackle from Florida. You want to talk about a large human being. Man, this is a large human being with a foot issue, which isn't great because he's so big.

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Yeah, and that's and that's where your concern's gonna lie.

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But he's 6'6, 327, and he's cat like quick. I don't know if you've watched this kid's.

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But if he's it it's gonna be, is he healthy?

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Yeah, he is. If he is healthy and he's ready to go, heavy.

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And it's also gonna be keeping it consistent. He could be logistic.

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He could be a real issue.

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Yeah. Is he going to also be like a there may have been some questions about his motor?

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Yeah, well, I mean, he's not the most technical or polished pass rusher, but he could be absolutely dominant against the run. They said he's gonna be a dog. He could be dominant. He, I mean, he will have to be double. The good thing is he'll have some versatility too. Yeah, he's gonna draw attention. He's been compared to Javon Kinlaw. Yeah, it's not terrible. No. Munro Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia. It's another large human being.

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Look, some things you're gonna feel good about in a SEC offensive lineman, something I am going. To have some higher expectations for. Unless it's Isaiah Wilson. That is correct. But he was a head case and he was questionable to begin like to begin with, anyways. I mean 6'7-315. It's a large human being.

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He has a large man. Big good road blockers. He's like a 6'7-315, but you're like, he's 315. Like, he can pack on weight. And here's, I don't know, maybe my favorite pick of the draft. Mikai Lemon. Bro. Howie. Howie. I don't know how he keeps continuing to get away. Here's the problem. Here's the problem here. He is 100% a head case. Dude, this cat is he's weird. I don't I don't even know what to call it. Like, you watch him talk, you're like, what the fuck is going on? Man. You're like, what the fuck is he going through? He be he be moving like a snake. You see how he moves side to side? Like when he's talking? So I'm so blessed. He just be moving like this too, bro. He just be doing this. It's weird. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with him. I he might have CTE. Man, early on.

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I ain't doing no playing.

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He said, they said, how do you feel? What do you want to tell the Philadelphia Eagle fans? They're like, they're getting a dog. I ain't doing no playing. He said, they're getting a dog. But yeah.

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I mean, it's a it's Bro, it was also crazy that Pittsburgh was on the phone with him drafting and Philly couldn't get a hold of him. Did you see that?

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Yeah.

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He's like, why is Philly calling me? What do you do in that situation? I'd have called Philly and be like, no, I don't really want to play there. But where would you rather be? Pittsburgh?

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Philly. Or Philly. Yeah, I'd absolutely the only problem with Mikhail Lemon is his quarterback. You mean Jalen Hurts? That's right. That's okay. If he couldn't get the ball to AJ Brown, he definitely ain't getting that motherfucker to Mikhail Lemon. That's okay. And then you got Max. He's gonna pull the strap out. Max, say his name. I can't say his name.

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I didn't watch much of Arizona State football, so. I watched a video.

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Some people say that that was a reach. Yeah, maybe. You know what I watched the video. You know what the video was? What it was when Mike Vrabel found his way in Arizona State's pro day. Right before he was at the Sedona. Oh man.

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Right before he went to get caught cheating.

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Yeah, I saw that. He was manhandling Vrabel. Big bodied him. He's huge. He's a large human. 6'5, 321. He's like an athletic freak. Man, ran a 4'9. Imagine somebody 6'5, 321 running a 4'9. He runs 40 yards in 4.9 seconds. Man, that's quick. That's fucking insane.

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It's quick. We'll just see. We'll just see.

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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know much about him. Didn't watch a ton of tape.

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I don't, I mean, I don't know how Pittsburgh Steelers fans feel about. Well, I mean, you get some Roderick Jones is having that neck thing. So, like, you address your offensive line just in case he's gone. So, I mean. You know, Drew Aller's got an offensive lineman now. Aaron Rodgers is still coming back. Bro, the quarterback competition's gonna be Will Howard. Aaron Rodgers, Drew Aller? What if Drew Aller comes out and he's the guy?

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What if he's nice? Some people said that he'll be a better fit for the NFL than he was college. Could be. Maybe you just don't go to fucking Penn State. How about that?

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I don't know, man. That's on him. We drafted someone from Penn State.

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Yeah. Who cares? Not a quarterback. Next pick, Akeem Mesador. It's a great pick. 22. Got him at 22. He's old. He's a dog.

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A lot of people are starting to question if he uh like was just so good because he was playing kids. How old is he? 25.

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Shit. You're fucking kidding. No. He's 25 years old. 25. Yeah, he's cooked. I take it back. He played quite a bit of he played quite a bit of ball. He played a ton of ball. A lot of ball. More than most. Man, that's insane. 25 years old. What the fuck are they doing down in Miami? Well, he was just, you know, one of those, you know, those COVID people, man. Man. Malachi Lawrence. 23 to the to the Cowboys.

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I like what Dallas did in the draft. They addressed the defense. You go get you an edge rusher. The problem is, is, you know, that draft pick is one of the Michael Parsons draft picks. Yep. So he's got to be something.

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He needs to be nice. He needs to be nice. I don't know much about him. I didn't watch a lot of him.

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Yeah, I didn't watch a ton of UCF football either.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

He's a large human being, though. With what looks like, you know what? The next guy we're going to talk about is not. With what looks like a lot of room to grow. I mean, 6'4, 253. You could probably put on 10, 15 pounds there. This, I mean, I've been on record saying that this was one of my favorite receivers in the draft. Yep. And he goes, he goes to someone else that you like that you're a fan of. I uh well, it's funny you say that because once as soon as I saw that he was drafted by the Browns, my stomach dropped. And I was like, God damn it, I'll never, I'm not gonna pick him up. I don't want him now.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Look, bro, this the Browns offense, if Shador grows, like the Browns offense, like people forget Isaiah Baum was a first round talent before that shit popped up. So like just because I don't think he got any worse at football because of that. Maybe. Like it might have ruined his draft position or the fact that he got drafted at all.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Dude, draft like draft stock is everything.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Like it really is. It is in the NFL. You're right.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Like if you're not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Until you're one of those guys that goes from being a fifth-round pick and explodes.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah, like you know, you get a puka every now and again. It's once in a blue moon. It's not like it's all the time. Right. And Antonio Brown. Yeah, right. It it happens every once in a while. It's not it doesn't happen every year.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Yeah, but I'm just saying in the case of Isaiah Bond, he would have been a first-round pick had he not got lied on.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Yeah, but he was a Texas wide receiver. Well, you have some interest in a Texas wide receiver now, don't you? I mean, yeah, now. Cam Coleman's sick. He's not the average. Yeah, they say he's right up there with Jeremiah Smith. I said that he's right up there with it. Make that be known. I I said that. Raleigh's the one that told me. I said it. But I'm a big KC Conception fan. I hate that he went to the Browns. It kills me on the inside a little bit. Great pick for them. They really reset their wide receiver room. They also drafted Denzel Boston, too.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

I think that's I mean, they invested a lot in that offense. And look, here's the thing. Worst case scenario is if Shador's not the guy, whenever they do bring a quarterback in, he should be coming into a better situation. Like we'll see how Judkins come back from his injury. It was brutal.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

But it was super similar to what Cam Scout did.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Even then, I st I liked what Dylan Sampson did. Yeah, no. So like he's gonna come in. He might be, he might take over, whatever, cool.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

But like what they've done, they've done some good things there. Shout out to the dog pound. Man. Dylan, how you say his last name? The white dude from Oregon. Was it Thynaman?

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Thynaman. He's sick. He's fast as fuck. Look, I think the comment that I made was there's a a lot of Caucasian defensive backs entering the league.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

He will probably be, he'll probably be a guest on the exciting whites podcast. I'm sure. He doesn't play corner, so that doesn't. Reed Blankenship doesn't play corner either. He's a safety. But they play football together.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Get Riley Moss on the Exciting Whites. Woo! He's not exciting. He's excitedly. He's exciting if you're an off if you're an offensive player. He's excitingly bad. He's exciting. You get excited if you are T. Higgins or Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Here is a pick that I think was probably the most needed for a team. A team that I have a lot invested in, fantasy-wise, and it's the Houston Texans taking Kalen Rutledge, the offensive guard from Georgia Tech. My God, do they need help? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

You can't really go wrong. Every one of their draft picks should have been an O-line.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Man, I promise you. They need so much help there.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Because they had, I mean, they had a good off. They had off well, they didn't have a good offensive lineman, but they did have Laramie Tunsell, and then they got rid of him and then did nothing of value to replace him.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Yeah. Well, look, that's a it's a good pickup for them. I hope it works.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

I mean, I hope it doesn't because they're in my division.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

You know, I like fantasy football. I like fantasy football too, but I'm invested in Nico Collins. So I'm invested in CJ Stroud having time to throw that motherfucker to him.

unknown 31:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yeah. Then we got the Dolphins. They strike again. They get Chris Johnson, not the running back. Not cornerback. Yeah, but the cornerback. I don't really love I don't really love him. You don't? No. Four interceptions last year. Two returns for touchdowns.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Yeah, but he was four-four. Wasn't exactly uh lined up against elite talent. That's true. But but you know, we only care about that when it's on the offensive side of the ball.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

That's also true.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Which is crazy because I feel like it's a lot easier to lock down somebody who's not as good as somebody. Like in the same sense of offensively. It's like, oh, he wasn't playing nobody, so of course he was getting off. And the Browns draft another quarterback, Taylor Green.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Oh man. There's gonna be some real quarterback. What is that? The 182. Was this the sixth? We're in the sixth round right here.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Oh my god. What a terrible idea. They're gonna convert him.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

I'm in. He's gonna go. I'm back in. KC Conception can get drafted. I'm back in. We got our quarterback in the future. John Gruden called him maybe the best chance that he thinks to be the best quarterback in the league. I got distracted. Uh Caleb. Caleb Lomu. Is that how you say it? I love that pick for the Patriots. They got two zesty tackles.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Yeah, the little spin thing and very zesty tackles in this. His little draft video or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

The funniest thing about this is the video of Mike Vrabel calling him and then the kid being like, How are you, sir? And he's like, I'm great. Brother, we know you're lying. Okay? We know you're not great right now. I wouldn't be either. And he's a also large human being.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

But I mean, look, and the good thing is, is this guy does not have short arms. He very long arms. So that I've like my first thought when I saw that is are they gonna move Will Campbell in?

SPEAKER_01 33:53

They're gonna move him to Gar. They're gonna move him to right tackle. Yeah. I figured. No, I'm playing. Don't they have Morgan Moses? Yeah, but he was also getting torched. Peter Woods, defensive tackle, 29 to the Chiefs. This is a good pick for them. Somebody needs to get this cat a financial advisor. Okay? Ask me why. Why? You didn't see it? Didn't see what. Man, that's great news. I know you didn't see it. He immediately went and bought his mom and his sister Maseratis. Nice. After he got drafted to the Chiefs. He already had a bag. Maybe. He could very well be broke in five to ten years. Yeah. I mean, at least he did it for his mother. I don't know how much you are aware of cars, but it's not like Maseratis are known for being reliable vehicles. No, they are not. They're Italian pieces of shit.

unknown 34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Like most Italian vehicles. I don't know if our fans know this, but most Italian vehicles are pieces of shit. And that includes the expensive ones. Okay? They all are. They're just made, they're all smoking cigarettes and eating pasta in there. And it's just they're fucking poorly made. They don't care about their cars like they care about their pasta or pizza.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Man, but from a football perspective.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

Yeah, shout out Peter Woods. He's nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

One thing they said about this guy. Chris Jones and him could be an issue. The thing for him is, is man, is he gonna put is like it's a work they said it's a work ethic thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Well, look, Steve Sarkeesian has the ability to get the best out of people.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Look, and well, they said that they said if you look at this guy, if you just watch the highs, this guy's Aaron Donald. Whoa. That was said? That was said. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

The first thing they said. That's who you compare him to? That's that's what they said at his sale. That's what they said at his best. Aaron Donald, brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Woo!

SPEAKER_01 36:02

It's a gold jacket.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Well, hey, look, the last time last time I heard a different well, I guess that came from the player himself. When Tavondre Sweat said when he if he gets down to 350, he's getting a gold. Yeah, more than likely making the Hall of Fame, and he played two years in Tennessee and got traded.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

The Jets, the Jets traded for him, and he's gonna have his opportunity. He'll be the guy in the middle of that defense. So speaking of the Jets, at 30, they take Omar Cooper Jr. How do you feel about this? I like I like Omar Cooper. I liked Elijah Surratt more, actually. As crazy as that sounds. I, you know, a lot of people like him because he's got explosiveness and run after the catch and all this. He's got some dogs. I just I don't think he is I don't think he was as good. I don't think he's I don't I think Denzel Boston's better than he is, personally. And when the tape that I watched, yeah, I didn't know a lot of people love Omar Cooper. Right. I didn't have him this high. So it's a little bit of a surprise to me. Whatever. Shout out to the Jets. I hope they get it right. Like I said, man, I think they had a really good first round. Keldrick Falk, bit of a surprise. Titans trade up back into the first round to get this pick. And I love them doing that. This isn't something the Titans have historically done. It's not. Chef Borganzi, as I would like to call him, for cooking. He cooked. He cooked with this trade. It was another reason that Brandon Bean, because we got this, you know, this picks from the Bills who like to trade up out of the first round every year and make bad picks after that. Keon Coleman being an example. A guy they would pound the fucking table for. Fucking losers. It's another example of Brandon Bean not being fit to be a GM in the in the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Well, a lot of people like what they did because it's what they said is they realized that they needed players. Yeah. And I mean, granted, they didn't gain any picks in this move because it was like us trading. We moved back three spots in the third. We moved up from the second to the first. And then we gave them a fourth round pick, and they gave us a fifth round pick. So we essentially gave it up for them to move up in from the fifth round to the fourth.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

It was essentially a four-five swap. Yeah, and you get you, and you get someone, he's 20 years old, so he's young. He is the youngest. He I believe he's the youngest player in the entire in the entire draft.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

He can play the run and the pass.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

He the the people that they compared him to are Eric Armstead and DeForest Bugner.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

I think one thing that I like too about the Titans and and what they drafted this year is they really went after these like power conference players.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Yeah. Ohio State. If he ends up being an Eric Armstead type player, we're gonna be sick as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

We're gonna be sick as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Yeah, and I like it. You add some depth too. You still got Femi. You still got Femi, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Yeah. I mean, you got Harrell. What is it? Justin Harrell.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Yeah, and then obviously you picked up Jermaine Johnson. I really like I really like what that what he's gonna add, like what we've done with this entire offseason for one, but the start of the draft was strong. We're not probably won't dive into the second round much, but like I also like the Titans getting Anthony Hill Jr. I don't love it. Why, bro? You know I because of Cedric Gray? Yeah, but Cedric Gray is also gonna play like he's a will.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Like it's crazy to think that well, look, you don't trade up into the second round and draft an off-ball linebacker to not play. Man, he was a second team All-American. That's fine. I don't care. It's a fucking coll it's a college accolade. It means nothing for the future. That is true. I just I think that you have a guy like Cedric Gray who went fucking nuts.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

But he's still gonna be on the field. But he went fucking nuts. But have you watched any of the tape on him since he's got drafted? Like this guy can play the run and pass. He's got good instincts. He's athletic.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

Yeah. He's more athletic than Cedric than Cedric Gray.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Like I feel like I feel like having both of them on the field. Like I they're both I feel like they're both gonna be on the field.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

I guess it can't hurt to have him. Like, right? Like it can't hurt.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Yeah. Allegedly, the Broncos.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

If you just don't plan on paying Cedric Grey, then yeah, but then they still get two more years of him. But still, he was a second round pick. He gets one more year. And then rounding out the first. This is the one that I guess makes sense because it's what they needed. But to me, brother, I don't this guy was not like Jadarian Price, when I did my scouting. It's more of like a pure runner. I dude, his catch like his production profile on the receiving end is non-existent. It literally non-existent. Yeah. It's it does not exist. Nah. It's it's kind of crazy. He and then he got interesting for fantasy. He's coming in. He's coming in to uh he'll be the guy. Yeah, Charbonnet's still still gonna be out start the year. Yeah, it'll be him and George Helani. I don't know. It's weird. I don't love him. I get it though. I have to be interested now. At 5'11. Okay. 5'11-203. Alright. Oh man. So we don't have to go analyze the rest of the picks, but uh I just before we move on, I just it's weird to sit over here and be like, yeah, he was so productive on the runs that he got. But it's also like these teams were playing against Jeremiah Love to start out. It's not like you see Jadari and Price come in, you're like, okay, we can maybe fucking breathe a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

And then and then he tears you alive too. I mean, he he was efficient. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Of course he was efficient. You're you're backing up the best running back in the NFL. I mean, in college football. Yeah. Like you're not seeing, like, he's not playing against ones all game. Like, they see Jeremiah Love come off the field, they're like, alright, bro, come off the field. Man. Get you a breather. He's fucking killing you right now. Like, it's yeah, it's tough. I don't know. I don't love Jadarian Price. It's hard to argue with what the Seahawks have done in the draft. John Snyder's one of the best GMs in football. Yeah. So I'm not gonna. There is a there's a couple things in the second round I want to talk about. Deshaun stribbling. A lot of people think this was maybe the reach of the draft. Yeah. For the for the 49ers drafting the old Miss Y receiver. I thought it was funny. I don't know much about the kid, to be honest. I mean, he's good. I uh I didn't watch any tape. I watched more tape on Ted Hurst, who went in the third round.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

Another pick that I liked for him, and it's once again the rich getting richer. Howie Roseman, Eli Stowers.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Yeah, he's to me, he's better than Kenyon Sadiq. I know that.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

That's gonna be a nice Goddard Dallas Goddard replacement.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

For sure. But didn't they just re-sign Dallas Goddard this year? Yeah, that's fine, but I mean he's still getting older. You get a year or two. Still odd. The Colton Hood pick for the for the Giants is a big pick. Hey, who did who picked up my boy the corner from Tennessee? Which one? The dude that fell. Uh the Raiders. And they said first round talent seventh round knee.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

And like the four and like the fourth.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

It balances out. They traded up in the fourth to pick him up. What is the average of four one and seven? Yeah, he's nice though. I got a couple questions for you. We'll we'll pick through the the rest of this. Carson Beck, first pick of the third round. To the Cardinals. You were shocked? Yeah, I said I said he wasn't getting drafted. I know. I told you he was an NFL quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

You did. I didn't think he would get drafted.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

I told you he was an NFL.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

And you know, and you know the part that's upsetting for me about it is is I mean, he's fucked either way because that roster's terrible.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

What? On the offensive side of the ball?

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Well, I mean, you got Trey McBride and Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

Marvin Harrison Jr.?

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

Michael Wilson?

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Brother, that's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

We don't love Marv anymore, man. The people who done beat me up so bad about Marv, I gotta start looking at him like he's a 700-yard receiver. Like, I mean, he don't move the needle.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Don't let the people. I mean, look, he definitely hasn't shown that he's the number four overall pick. But real Corey Davis-esque start to his career. I uh but you know, you still believe in the talent. Maybe. You still believe in the talent.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

Maybe I don't know if I believe in somebody that cried. I don't believe, I don't know if I can believe in an in an NFL player crying after catching a touchdown. Like, that's something you do if it's like your first game, your first touchdown, or like the last one of your career at the end of a game of your last game, or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 45:49

But bro, like we're a year and a half into your career. I got three right here. And they're all in a row and they're all third-round picks. Bang, bang, bang. Malachi Fields, wide receiver to the to the Giants. How you feel about that? I like them adding somebody beside Malik Neighbors. He is a he is a big, big guy. He's a big body receiver. 6'4, 218. We like we like a good Reds guy. This is gonna sound a little crazy. A little touchdown hawk. This is gonna sound a little crazy. I watched his tape, and he's not necessarily to me, he wasn't necessarily like a vertical threat, but there's a little Nico Collins in there. There we go.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

From what I saw, there's a I think I don't want him to be a Nico Collins because I don't need Malik Neighbors to be a Jamar Chase. Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Be a T. Higgins then. There we go. T. Higgins is the thing. Unfortunately, they don't have Joe Burrow throwing them the ball. It's Jackson Dart. T. Higgins is much better than Malachi Fields.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

We got somebody out here.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

I don't think you have to worry about Malachi Fields being a number one. Thank God. This is a kid that I did really like. And it was Caleb Douglas out of Texas Tech, wide receiver. He's another big, he's another big guy. He is fast as fuck. Most people consider him like a downfield threat.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

He played second fiddle to KC Ketception.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

He played at Texas Tech.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

I know what you're talking about. Yeah. He's nice. He's nice, dude. I think that to me, he's probably gonna be their number one. He's very interested in me come to fantasy football. I know he's a third round pick, so he's you know, he's day two.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

And who did he get drafted to?

SPEAKER_01 47:41

The Dolphins. I mean, God, I'm surprised I didn't take one sooner. I know. It's crazy. He's nice, though. I don't know how much you've watched him, but dude, he's got I was really hoping.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

I didn't go back and watch it.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

There's another kid that I liked. I just don't like his landing spot. Who's that? Ted Hurst. He bro he played at Georgia State. He's sick. And who did he get drafted by? The Bucks. I don't love it. Yeah. It's a crowded room, to say the least. Very crowded. It's a crowded room.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Do they still have Jalen McMillan? Yeah. Oh. Very crowded.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

It's very crowded.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

Is that goblin?

SPEAKER_01 48:22

This is this is one. Tell me, tell me if this is the QB of the future. It's Drew Aller.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

To the Steelers.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

I mean, look.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

12th pick of the third round.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

So my thing on the Drew Aller pick is I like I think he went to a good spot. Like Mike McCarthy is a quarterback developer. He's had some success with like, you know, those middle round picks.

SPEAKER_01 48:48

He likes Drew Aller. Drew Aller's a Pennsylvania kid.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

He wasn't in Dallas when he I don't know why the fuck I said that. He wasn't in Dallas when they drafted Dak.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

He was in, he absolutely was in Green Bay. Yeah. When they drafted Aaron Rodgers.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

It wasn't exactly a mid-round pick. Nope. But I mean, he's going someone that can develop quarterbacks. I mean, he was coming into the year, a first-round pick, quarter, like first-round quarterback. Tore his ACL. He tore his ACL. But like it what if he comes and becomes like what they thought he was going to be coming into the year?

SPEAKER_01 49:30

I don't feel this way, but a lot of people think that he could be much better in the pros than he was in college, and that's because the system that Penn State played.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Yeah, and you know, and the and the and it's part of the fuels, the reason why I don't like it is because it's very reminiscent of what they said about Christian Hackenberg.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Uh-huh. That's hilarious. You remember that? Yeah, I do. He sucked. He was terrible. Moving on, Zachariah Branch to the Falcons. Anything for you? I like Zachariah Branch. I think he's a bubble screen king. I don't know if he I don't know if it translates to the league. He's very fast. He'll be a dog returning the ball. Well, I mean, I think he'll have some opportunities to here is this is the new number two in in Carolina, and I believe this. It's Chris Brazzle.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

I like him.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

He's nice.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

It sucks because I was a big believer in Xavier Leggett.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Yeah, he's I believe he's dead. Not literally, but I believe his You think he's out of the league in a year or two. For sure. He'll be a UFL player.

unknown 50:37

Oh, God.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

Will he be a superstar in the UFL?

SPEAKER_01 50:43

One of my favorite. Yeah, absolutely. He'd be a freak in the UFL. That's not hard. You got LaVisca Shenault in the UFL. Who else they got in there? It's nice. Or not nice. LaVisca Shenault. I believe John Ross is in the UFL. No, maybe I'm wrong on that.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

I don't watch the UFL.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

I'm a fan. I'm a big Louisville Kings guy.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

I don't watch the UFL. I like real football.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Here's something that we need to pay attention to for fantasy football. It's Calen Black going to the 49ers. Kaelin Black. In the third round. And you're like, why would we pay attention to that?

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Why would we pay attention to the top of the top?

SPEAKER_01 51:23

One, they draft a running back every year. But Christian McCaffrey's bound to die. Yeah, he had over 400 touches last year. No way he makes it.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

He went back to Germany.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

There's just no way. One of my favorite receivers of the entire draft was Chris Bell. He went to Miami. He could be a sneaky, sneaky pick. I like Chris Bell. He is sick. Dude, he's sick. I don't know how much you've watched him. He did. Yeah. Midway through the year. He probably won't even be probably won't be ready like till midway through the year.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

I think if he didn't get hurt, he would have been drafted higher.

SPEAKER_01 51:59

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah, it would have probably been like a second-round pick of the gates. Let's see here. Yeah, that's pretty much all I have to talk about in that round.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Man, so you know, the draft's pretty much over with.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Draft is pretty much over.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Who are your who are your big winners and losers?

SPEAKER_01 52:19

I think the Jets did well.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

It's so easy to say. Actually, we don't we don't even have to do that because it's so easy to say the winners are the team that got multiple like first round picks.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

Yeah, I think that look, the Texans addressed issues that they had. They drafted a bunch of offensive linemen. I know they at least drafted two guards. Yeah. God, is that necessary for them? You know, the Chiefs, a third team with two first round picks. Any of those teams, you're right though. Any of those teams with two firsts could say the Cowboys had an incredible draft. Yeah. The Titans had a good, a great first round.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

I like the Titans draft as a whole. I like the Nick Singleton pick. I mean, it's not gonna play. I don't expect them to play.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

But like there's one more thing that I want to, there's one more discussion before we can. I don't even want to grade it. I hate that grade and shit. Because it's just like it's I'm grading prospects. And yeah, and we don't know what these guys are. Yeah, prospects are suspecting to the case.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

I mean, we can give somebody an F and then they're gonna come out and be an A, and everybody's gonna be like, oh my gosh, he's so sick. So it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

And it just kind of sets us up for failure. Sets us up for failure. If I give the Jets an A on their draft grade, and then fucking Omar Cooper sucks, and Kenyon Sadiq's just athletic. That's all he is, and fucking David Bailey's not the best edge. And Cade Klubnick's.

SPEAKER_02 53:45

What if Clay Kate Klubb's?

SPEAKER_01 53:47

So this is the player I wanted to talk about. Cade Klubnick. Now, we did a podcast. I don't know. I don't even remember what episode it would have been earlier in the year, where we're talking about Cade Klubnick. You said Kade Klubnick fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Hey man, dog.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

Kade Klubnick was taken as with the tenth pick in the fourth round by the New York Jets.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

Look, they wait, I'm gonna stand on the side that they uh they wasted a draft pick.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

So Kade Klubnick still sucks.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Still fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_01 54:26

I mean, brother's the Jets. If is there a chance K Klubnick gets to roll out this year and be the quarterback? If I mean is j no, Geno, if Gino Smith dies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because I mean, we know it's possible that Gino Smith can get benched. That's not crazy.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

I mean, it is.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

Because it's not crazy.

SPEAKER_02 54:48

It's either that or what, Brady Cook. Whoo, he's bad. Yeah, we don't want to see that again.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

He's bad. Before we move on, we'll go a couple players that I also really like. Skylar Bell from Yukon, wide receiver. He's nice, got drafted by the Bills. Just took a shot. I really liked him. I liked what the Bills did in the Elijah Surratt, who I thought was the better of the two Indiana receivers, went in the fourth, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Did he go to Baltimore?

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

I think it's uh They drafted somebody else, too.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

They they drafted uh two wide receivers. They did. I can't think of the other one. It was in like the second or third round. But I think Elijah Surratt is nice. I believe he is nice. He's a little older, so that's not great. But I think he's nice. He did make some plays. I think he was the better of the two. To me on tape. But yeah, that's that's pretty much it. You got a bunch of O-line safeties and defensive backs, and this was this is a good defensive draft. Well, let's hope that it works out for like the Cowboys, because they only drafted defense.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

I mean, that's really all that they needed. Yeah. The O-line's solid. This is true. Wide receivers, good. And look, I'm surprised. I'm surprised because I just knew the Cowboys were gonna go ride receiver and then trade George Pickens during the draft. That didn't happen, so it looks like George Pickens is actually going to be playing for Dallas this year.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

And will be a he'll be a massive part. He's gonna play on a franchise tag. But he's making a check. It's not like it's a bad thing. He's making less money than Alec Pierce. So?

SPEAKER_02 56:34

I think it's safe to say. I don't think we're gonna have this argument, are we? No. Okay, I just had to make sure, you know.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

I like, yeah, but I'm saying it's a one-year deal for 27 mil. Like, bro, you're getting paid 27 mil. I don't want to hear you bitch.

SPEAKER_02 56:50

Well, he doesn't have a long time.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

And it's fully guaranteed.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

I bitch, I'd bitch, if if I see people like Alec Pierce having a a multi-year deal and I can't get one.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Yeah, well, maybe you shouldn't be such a crash-out king. Alec Pierce, he does charity events. He's a man of the community. You know where I I'm lied. You know where I see uh you know where I see George Pickens? Where? He's like riding in a scat pack, smoking a backwood. Yeah. Getting faded. Getting faded. With LaMelo Ball. He's like, fuck these kids.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

With LaMelo Ball and Miles Bridges. Oh my god. Why?

SPEAKER_01 57:41

Because, you know, either just riding now, smoking bag, bro. Man, I think that's a that's a pretty decent breakdown of the draft.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Yeah, we could, you know, get deep diving more into it. I think the good thing for me is now like everything's starting to get set. We might start seeing some more of these like people that didn't get signed get signed as we start moving on. We can start looking forward to like off-season camps. Yeah, no, it's like we're about to start really getting into the swing, and before you know it, we're gonna look up and it's gonna be football season again.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

Yeah, that'll be that'll be where we shine.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

We'll have some, you know, throughout the week, we'll start working on our like our after draft projections.

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Yeah, our yeah, all of our all of our it won't even be that early picks of we'll start talking dynasty draft. Oh man, I can't wait. I might be making a move. I can't wait till the fucking fantasy draft.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Question: I'm gonna take a quick poll for the users. Send us a text and let me know. Should I should I severely overpay for the right to draft Carnell Tate in Dynasty? I have zero need for him.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

He can't help himself.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

I can't help myself, bro.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

He can't help myself.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

I think the Tennessee Titans got a wide receiver one.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

Don't don't do Michael Irvin did come out and say the Titans just drafted Cam Ward's Michael Irvin. That's fire, bro.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

Fire, bro. He's gonna be good. Like, people don't love it because it was at four, but if they would have drafted Carnell Tate at seven, we wouldn't be like, oh, it's a bad pick.

SPEAKER_01 59:17

I agree with that. I don't know why. It just they're like, oh, why didn't you trade down and get more? Get an extra fourth round pick. Yeah, who cares? Just get your guy. Get your guy. You draft your guy. You draft and get your life, you believe in him.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

Look, I feel I feel I like it for Cam Ward. I mean, they're at least like trying to put people around them.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

I'm with it. I'm with it. I uh is there any more that you want to get into?

SPEAKER_02 59:46

Nah, man, other than if your team, if you think that your team is better than my team after this draft, fuck you. That's crazy. Titans are winning the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

The Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

Nah, we're not. But I do think the Titans might be a fringe playoff team.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

But do tell us if you feel like your team won the draft. I think the Steelers have had a pretty good draft.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

Any Jets fans out there, tell us about how great your draft was. If we have Jets fans that listen to this, and vice versa. If you're pissed off about what your team did in the draft, let us know too. Everybody's happy this time of year, though. You got any uh you got any uh like motivational quote to send us off with or anything, bro?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

If you wanted to pull something up real quick, we can. No, I don't have anything. I also don't have anything. No motivation, no motivation for anybody this week.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

We've been cranking it out, cranking them out, bro, working. We've got more coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Yeah, we're really about to get into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

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SPEAKER_01 1:00:58

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SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

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SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

We're gonna keep working, guys. It's getting closer to the regular season. But until then, we'll see y'all on the next one. Episode 20. That'll be electric.