More Free Agency, Daniel Jones is a Bag Man, Jaylen Waddle On the Move

Free agency has officially turned into a fever dream. The Kansas City Chiefs grab Justin Fields, Jaylen Waddle is suddenly a Denver Broncos, and the Indianapolis Colts  gave Daniel Jones $88M like it’s Monopoly money.

The Miami Dolphins have so much dead cap they might need a GoFundMe, De’Von Achane could be next on the chopping block, and now Kyler Murray to the Minnesota Vikings. At this point we’re not breaking news—we’re just trying to survive it.

Transcript

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Episode 12. Episode 12. I'm back in the cave. Once again, it's not actually a cave. Stop asking. It's not a real cave. Stop asking. One day. Jesus. One day it'll be a real cave.

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What are we gonna lead off today with, man?

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Man, we're gonna lead off with some good news. All right. One of us had a great weekend. All right. Well, I hope you have one too.

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I had a great, I had a great weekend.

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I also had a great weekend. One of the experts here got engaged.

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Yeah, hell yeah. Hell yeah, you did, man.

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Shout out to that. Congratulations, pretty dope. It's pretty dope. Shout out to Lindsay.

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We can't wait. We can't wait till the wedding. Oh, bro. It's gonna be a ball. Yeah, well, fun.

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We're gonna have a great time.

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That'll be fun.

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So the vibes were high. Vibes are still high. Still high.

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We're riding high. We're about to drop a banger. Vibes are always high after and a good engagement. Man, I wouldn't know I've only had one, but vibes were real high after mine. The vibes are high after mine. Man, we're gonna ride that wave.

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But let's get into it, man. Enough about me. I guess we can start off the first thing that I have on here, which I thought is actually kind of shocking. Chiefs trading for Justin Fields.

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Yeah, what'd they give up? Do you know what they gave up exactly?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

I think it was like essentially nothing. Was it a nothing?

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Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

So it basically ended up being like one of the uh one of their compensatory picks, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Sweet.

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Like they're getting a pick back, so they traded like a seven. I think it was like a seventh.

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But hey, it's a great deal for the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Yeah, I don't, I mean It's a great deal for the Chiefs. I still hope Pat Mahomes is week one.

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He won't be. You wouldn't have traded for, I mean, I don't know. Maybe they just do it for like QB sneaks.

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They saw they saw what's my boy's name? Ola Dukin.

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Yeah, he was better.

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They saw him, they're like, all right, we gotta do something. Justin Fields is better than that.

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Absolutely an upgrade. He would have been an upgrade from Russell Wilson. So I get it. If you're only trading a seventh or whatever they actually traded.

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I would rather have rode with Jameis Winston.

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Yeah, but you'd have to give up a little bit more for that.

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That is true. Maybe. At this, at this point, I don't know.

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Jameis should be the backup QB for everybody.

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He should really actually just live hey, I'm I'm all-time backup QB.

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Yeah, for everybody. Yeah, all the time.

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It'd gotta be hard.

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Like he's gonna be a good one.

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He's just on contract with every team. Yeah. 100%. First one, what if a team, like what if four teams lose their quarterback? Like one week with each one, uh each one of them.

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He should. He absolutely should. He's better than most options. It'd be a lot more fun that way.

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He's gonna throw a lot of touchdowns and a lot of interceptions. Yeah. He's gonna have some great vibes. Great vibes. High vibes. I feel like Jameis could be a starter in the league, though.

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Yeah, he was. He threw for 30 picks and 30 touchdowns. He did it great.

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Yeah, Justin Fields not a not a really a needle mover for me.

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It's a good bridge. Even if he, even if, even if Pat Mahomes misses the first four weeks of the season, you have having Justin Fields, you know, you can get a win or two out of those.

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So you're just convinced that Pat's not gonna be here week one.

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I mean, even if he is, it's not a hundred percent Pat. They'd probably still have packages with Justin Fields. Like, I'm not ruling out the option that he comes in just to be this the QB sneak guy.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah. I mean, they'd probably have some packages for him. Yeah. Even with Pat. I mean, I don't think it's a terrible option.

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It's you know.

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I just is Justin Fields gonna be the next Sam Darnold? No. Why not?

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I don't know. He did go to the Jets.

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He did go to the Jets.

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It's just hard to judge. It's hard to judge a man.

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I don't know if it's like if it's him, but it it almost feels like the coaches like it has to be him. I don't know. It seems like the coaches just like make the game plan when he's at quarterback so bad.

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Maybe, yeah. Look, you saw with a competent coach and like a competent coach and staff around him in Pittsburgh, he was decent.

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He was decent, but it I like He won him some games. He didn't make any like I don't know.

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He wasn't great. No, he wasn't great. Right. He wasn't bad though. He looked serviceable. He went to the Jets, it all fell apart again. It looked real bad in the Jet with the Jets. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, that organization doesn't do anybody any favors. I think that if even if you like if Patrick Holmes doesn't come back, like it's a good bridge.

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It's the NFL's version of the Babe Ruth move is about to happen to New York.

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He's gonna come out and be great.

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He's about to, yeah, they shipped him off like he left. He was terrible with the Jets. He's gonna he's gonna come back and they traded for him.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Yeah, it's not happening.

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And just like the conspiracy said, bro, I said it first, but the Jets are going to the Super Bowl.

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The Jets might be going to the Super Bowl. I mean, we got alleged.

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We got uh what's my boy's name that signed with him was a Demario Douglas?

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Yeah, no Davis.

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Demario Davis.

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Yeah.

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My man said, yeah, my agent said that the the Jets. When he said the Jets are an option, it says a no-brainer. Yeah. He's like, I know I'm gonna play.

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Oh man.

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Would you rather be a bench warmer for a good team or or like a like a starter for a bad team?

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I mean, he probably got more money because he's gonna be a starter for the Jets.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Yeah.

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Yeah, it'd be cool to live in New York for a year or two. I wouldn't mind it.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Except they play football in New Jersey.

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Yeah. You still live in New York if you wanted to. Probably wouldn't for tax purposes, but Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

I'm sure a lot of them probably don't.

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They probably do not. I wouldn't either. I don't blame them. I don't blame him. What about uh what do you how do you feel about Kyler Murray going to the Minnesota Vikings?

SPEAKER_00 6:52

I think it's got potential to be to be good.

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You pencil him in as day one starter.

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I mean, if it's between him and what we saw of JJ McCarthy, I think you gotta go with Kyler Murray.

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They did win five games in a row to end the season.

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Some say that this is you know, for a quarterback, you go to Kevin O'Connell. Next thing you know, you're winning Super Bowls for another team. Unless, of course, you're Kirk Cousins.

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Hear me out. Hear me out. He went to he went to Minnesota for a year. He leaves to go be the Rams quarterback.

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Oh man.

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Same system. Man, that'd be it's like the Rams or it's like the Rams or I mean Minnesota's the Rams minor league system.

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Just a funnel.

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Sean McVay calls up his boy.

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Hey, what do you think about Kyler Murray?

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He's like, I don't think you need to sign him long term, personally.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

I think the Rams are about to draft a quarterback. Who? I mean, I guess it's probably gonna be hearing whispers?

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Is it that lefty out of North Dakota State?

SPEAKER_00 8:09

No, it's not.

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I don't even know his name.

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I mean, I just I just feel like I mean that's what they have that pick for.

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You know who you know who I feel like would fit Sean McVeigh? Haynes Keane.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Oh, God. Well, they don't have to draft him. He'll be available. Him and Diego Pavia will be available in the undrafted free agent.

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You'd probably get Diego Pavio make him nasty. It's got the intangibles, man.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Sean McVeigh is a great coach.

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He is a great coach.

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But Kyler, realistically, I mean, dude, that division's so tough.

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What do you see the uh what do you see the Vikings record this year with Kyler?

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So a lot of people are like saying, oh my gosh, this was what, well, they went eight or nine games this year.

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Well, they were nine and eight.

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And it's like, oh man, you did that with JJ McCarthy and Carson Wentz.

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Who I must point out again, he did win five games in a row to end the season. Look, it doesn't feel like that, but he did do it.

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And if you look, and if that's the case, if if it was something you've made you feel good about that five-game run at the end of the season, you wouldn't have brought in Kyler Murray. Facts.

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So nothing, I mean, it's not like he impressed.

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I feel like that division's coming back.

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It's gonna be we're winning games because their defense was elite.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

Right. And Harrison Smith's gone, which I mean, he's old anyways. But I mean, that defense is gonna be good. I don't know, Kyler Murray. I mean, he they might be a 10-win team.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Okay. Hey, look, it's if if for nothing else, it's positive for fantasy football.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Yeah, if you're TJ Hawkinson. And JJ. He can't see, he can't see, he can't see far enough away. Can't see if he's open or not. Can't see where he's at.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

There's a great diagram that has JJ McCarthy throwing the ball, but it's an interception. And then it's got Kyler Murray throwing the ball to the back of the head of his line. The memes are elite. He's had to see these, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:22

What do you think about not having seen them?

SPEAKER_02 10:24

No, I'm saying Kyler Murray's had to see these, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:28

I mean, surely to God, he's seen all these short jokes his entire career.

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That's true. That's true.

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But what do you think? What do you think that does for him?

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Uh look, I I think he's uh I think he's uh I think he's a good upgrade from JJ. I uh they're probably a 10-win team. They're probably they win one more game, probably. We're on the same page.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's just one of those things with Kyler Murray. He's just so like he does twin games where you're like, oh my god, like it makes you forget like how nice he can be. And then he has another game where he's just like, what is he doing?

SPEAKER_02 11:05

I think the statistics about Kyle, well, like every like you see all these different you see all these people saying like, oh, him and Josh Allen have are similar in passing yards and rushing yards.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Yeah, but it's different.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Yeah, it's like they're misleading. Like those statistics are so misleading.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Right, because Kyler Murray shit is because they've been getting their ass beat.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Yeah, he's just it's garbage time.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

And Josh Allen does just like you know he's super yeah, it's like you those numbers aren't contributing to winning. Right. And there's a difference in that.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yeah, I agree. You know, I don't think it's look, Kyler Murray is absolutely this is his audition to go get a large bag and join the club.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Are we gonna start putting Kyler Murray in the bag chaser?

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Hey, I'm just saying if he can't. If he comes out with Kirk, is he gonna be able to get it? He will be. If he can come out here and ball and he goes crazy, look, he's already collecting a bag. He's already gotten one big, big, big payday. He's gotten it once. Who's to say that he can't go get it again if he has 4,600 with 29 touchdowns and seven?

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Yeah, I mean, somebody would pay him at that point. Here's my thing is with it, is like so I'm just thinking, like, yeah, Kyler Murray has a place as a should be on a starter, should be a starter on on a team year in and year out at some point. Right. I mean, like, he's gonna be better than a lot of these bad quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Is he better than Malik Willis? Yes, right, I would say so. Like Malik Willis just has yeah, 100%. Both of those guys are starting quarterbacks in the league. Yeah, I mean, because like I would say that Geno Smith's better than every backup in the league.

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Right, yeah.

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You know what I mean? For sure. So it's like if if naming two starters, he's already better than one only has 28 dropbacks though in his entire which is nuts.

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But you know, and I mean the good thing is they didn't pay him, you know, as much as someone's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Look, we'll just go ahead and get into that. The Miami Dolphins have traded Jalen Waddell to the Denver Broncos for a first and a third and a fourth pick swap. How do you you don't like it? I for who? Yeah, I mean I mean he's a good receiver when he's healthy. He's always banged up.

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It's you know me, man.

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Best ability is availability. Yeah. I don't feel like he's that available. But he's nice. He is nice. Is he is he the Broncos wide receiver one?

SPEAKER_00 13:57

I think he should be.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

To be honest, you know what? I think it helps Corlin Sutton out more than it does anything else.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah, I like Corlin Sutton. I think he's good. I don't know. It kind of feels like I I don't think it'll be a like a who's the wide receiver one or you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

I think that getting Jalen Waddle can significantly help in between the 20s.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Yeah. You also get a a downfield threat.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Yeah, I mean you kind of had that already. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

You get a better weapon.

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Even though he only uses Marvin Mims in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

You get a secret weapon, man. You gotta have something in your bag. You gotta have something hidden.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

Marvin Mims only becomes good with the lights of the brightest.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Hey, sometimes you need people like that, a David Tyree.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

You know, yeah, somebody just pop up in a spot. It definitely worked for David Tyree, brother.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

I mean, I I don't I don't know. I mean, it's not like it was a high first round pick, so it doesn't feel like it, you know, doesn't feel like your usual first round pick. The good thing with Miami is they get to draft another player that they'll have a fifth round, like a fifth-year option on.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

But it's like, man, I don't know if I would have traded Waddle if I was them.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Bro, you get a first and a third.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Yeah, but guess what now, guess what now what you need. You get a yeah, who cares? Who cares? I get it. I would have done it too. I would have proved it. I would have absolutely not only that, you just carried a $26 million cap deck, $26 million dead cap hit in addition to what you've already have. Bro, they have a $175 million dead cap hit alone. All right, so you're gonna be paying more more in money for people to not be on your team than to be.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

Be on your team, right? And how long does that last for? Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 15:49

I think that that $175's gotta be for just this year. That's crazy. I mean, I don't, yeah, it's nuts.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

It is crazy. I get it. I but I also I also see the reason to trade him.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah, I mean I s I see the reason and to get it to trade him, but like I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

I just think the dolphins are like I feel like a first and a third's great value.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

You gotta trade Achan now, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Yeah, that's the real question.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

But here's the thing, you're gonna have to turn around and pay him.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Yeah. Would you, if you were the Tennessee Titans, would you trade for Devon Achan?

SPEAKER_00 16:24

I mean, depend. Yeah, I'd trade a second round pick for him, maybe. Yeah, if that's at that point, you don't have to get Jeremiah Love, but Yeah, and then you can draft David David Bailey. Yeah, but I think the thing that I wouldn't I wouldn't do it, especially because if if you think Jeremiah Love is is that nice at running back, then I wouldn't trade for A-Chan because you're immediately gonna have to pay him. Now, the good side of getting A-chan instead and trading for him and still paying them for listening commodity.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

Yeah, but you could probably get a chan for less than what you'd have to pay Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Uh I mean this I think the the pick, like the the cap hit on that or the salary, whatever, is like 12 mil, 13 mil, somewhere around there.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Yeah, that's about what a chan would get.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Right. That's why I said the only like thing is at least with a chan is you're getting a someone who's been productive in the NFL and is young.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Yeah, he's like 24, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Something like that. But I mean he's electric. You get you somebody that you know is a certified home run hitter, but if Jeremiah Love is what you know he's people are saying that he is, like I'd rather probably still rather have Jeremiah Love for the extra three, four years.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

I think I'm taking the I think I would take Devon H.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Why?

SPEAKER_02 17:44

He's a great pass catcher.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

They say Jeremiah Love's gonna be too.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

True. I don't know. You're the one that scared me into getting a running back and paying him all that much money, all that money at the four. You did this. You're the one that made me second guess it.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Well, I mean, now it makes more sense now. I mean, now you've addressed what they've addressed in free agency. Now it definitely now makes more sense. Like I feel like if you hadn't have gone after wide receivers, if you hadn't done so much on the defense, if you didn't make a trade for Jermaine Johnson, you know, it's really like the only thing that you need to figure out is like a long-term, another offensive weapon. It's a little high.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

But the price is a little high.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

Yeah, but at the end of the day, bro, especially you can afford to pay Jeremiah Love more right now. And then and it'd be okay because you're got Cam Ward on a rookie deal.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

If you if you believe in what if you believe in what Sol and Dayball said he's Jameer Gibbs.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yeah, and if you have that type of talent, I'm gonna take that at four.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Right. I get that.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I'm gonna take that every time.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

What are the dolphins gonna be? Are they gonna be the worst team in football?

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah, they should be. If they're not, it really shows how bad that well whoever the worst team in the league is.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Who else could it be?

SPEAKER_00 19:05

The Browns.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

There's really a couple contenders. It could be a sneaky, a sneaky play for worst team in the league's definitely the Falcons. You think so? Absolutely. It's a sneaky play to be bad.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

I feel like they get also a sneaky play for them to be like a dark horse team.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yeah, that's true. Because what a Tua competition is. Kevin Stefanski does have the ability to give you both things.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

And you've got, here's the thing is it's we've seen them be competitive with worse at quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

So that's gotta stand for something.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

Tua, you know, Tua can't win you a game or two.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Like you said, he's in a dome.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

He is in a dome. That'll definitely help him.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

So when you got that, I mean, you gotta take that.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

I uh I think that obviously the Jets are gonna be one of the worst teams.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Yeah, but they shouldn't be as bad as the Dolphins.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Just depends, man.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

They just unloaded everybody. That's true. Tyreeg's gone. Tua's gone, Jalen Waddles gone. You almost have to trade agents. Minka Fitzpatrick gone.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

You can't not, you can't just leave him there.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Yeah, I I mean, if I was the Dolphins, I would get you some value. Say we're gonna commit fully to this rebuild. Everybody that you bring in is gonna have a you know, a be a building block and play immediately. You're gonna be bad either way. You can't you can't have build a competitive NFL team on $128 million. No, like you can't, you just can't.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

That's true. That's a that's a very fair point.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

It's like it's like the athletics in the MLB compared to the Dodgers, right? Except you did this to yourself by choice in a world where it's capped. It's the same for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Yeah, the athletics want to be bad.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yeah. We just gotta be profitable.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

They plan on it. They're like, we plan on being bad. I got something that I think that you're pretty excited about.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

The Tennessee Titans unveiled the new rebrand.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

It's really grown on me a lot.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

You a big fan?

SPEAKER_00 21:15

I was a critic. You were I was a critic.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

You weren't a big fan of the logo?

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Wasn't a big fan of the logo.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Alright. Any changes in that?

SPEAKER_00 21:24

I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a fan of the logo by itself as a standalone. But like when I saw the renderings of the Nissan Stadium, like with the updated shit in there.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

It looked great.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

It did. It looked great, dude. It makes you excited. The color scheme, the f like the I like the font a lot.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

The jerseys have really grown on me. I love the white ones. Love the white ones. I wasn't the biggest fan of the blue ones. They've grown on me.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I'm still not the hugest fan of the blue ones either.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

The details what the details was. Does it for me.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

I think for me, it's the white is just how the details pop more.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Yeah, the blue details.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

So like the blue yeah, and then you got like the guitar strings on the side really pop more. Yeah, those things are the same. You got the white helmet, and then you got the guitar strings. I'll tell you what, it makes me excited. I do like that they they leaned into that a lot.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

This is what make this is what it makes me excited for. The rivalry jerseys. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

What do you think they're gonna be?

SPEAKER_02 22:24

I don't know, but they'll infinitely be better than what they were gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Facts. Look, I think I think it's just gonna be too hard to like not do it. You gotta have like the Music City Navy. Like they're just gonna it's just gonna be a navy jersey. Yeah, there's a lot of rumblings. With like the Columbia blue, the red trim. I feel like if they do that, they need to throw on like a like some musical notes.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Yeah, you could you could definitely play with it.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

I don't like, I will say still on the jersey. I don't like those little tiny little stars on the side.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

The tri-star in the armpit.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Yeah, yeah, I'm not a fan of that. Yeah. Like I just it just feels like it's kind of useless. It is. Because it's just like, you know, it's tiny.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Nobody's gonna see it. Yeah. It's for when you buy the jersey.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

I would have rather them put like a bigger one on like the chest plate. Yeah, but they could have put one.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

That detail, that small detail is gonna be for when you buy the jersey. You'll absolutely be purchasing a jersey. Yeah, absolutely. And once you see it, then you'll be like, oh man, it's hard. I think I do think that's how it'll go. You going white or blue?

SPEAKER_00 23:35

I'm going white. And I'm not even like a guy that like will do white jersey. Can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

I feel you. I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

But it's just too fire, bro. I'm gonna have one of each. I'm gonna have one of the white jerseys. And I probably honestly, I'll probably just get every player's jersey in white. Oh, that's crazy. Like every jersey that I get. I just don't love the blue. Or maybe, maybe it's not that I don't like the blue. Maybe it's just that I really like the white jersey.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Look, my sentiment has grown just like yours. I don't hate the logo as much anymore. I'm pretty excited. I saw the I saw the renderings of the stadium with all the new shows. I was like, dude, that's hard.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Man, I can't. It's like we're back. Back.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

I was like, even if we suck next year, at least we're gonna be fresh doing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

I don't think we're gonna be, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Even if we do, we're gonna be fresh doing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Well, I don't think we're gonna be as bad as people think we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Maybe not. I'm just saying. I'm not saying we are, but we are gonna be fresh. Yeah, we'll be fresh.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Like that white jersey might be top five.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

I I might agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

I like I personally have it ranked higher.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

It's just it's the color scheme, yeah. 100%. It's the color scheme. Everybody started going to their color scheme.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Bro, it's so fire, dog. It just so it looks so good. And then you see the people that are like they're just like, oh, they just took the Titans jersey and they just put the Oilers colors on it. That's all they have to do. Hey, we live the Oilers. The color scheme is so nice. Who wouldn't want? Why wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_02 25:12

First off, we live rent-free in the Houston Texans fancy.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Man, now they're gonna be pissed. They gotta see that shit every week.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Man, I'd be mad too.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

I mean, how could that that kind of become?

SPEAKER_02 25:23

I'd be mad too that we ran the Oilers out of town. Yeah, that's that ain't our fault.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Man, and then and then brought another franchise back.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

20 years later.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

And it's just as bad.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Man, yeah, that's their fault. Fuck them. They can fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Those jerseys, that like that color scheme's just too nice.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Daniel Jones got paid. Shout out to the Bagman.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Elite finesse.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Shout out to the Bagman.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Bro, the Colts literally essentially paid 44 extra million dollars to have a quarterback two years from now. Or the year after this one.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Shout out to Daniel Jones. He said he's gonna be back week one.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Now look, if Danny Domes comes back week one, I'm absolutely putting Patty Mahomes back in there week one.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

If Daniel Jones is back week one, Pat Mahomes is ready at minicamp.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Hey, I'm just telling you what I heard.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Bro, there's no way that there's no way that. What did you say?

SPEAKER_02 26:25

I just watched Jason Tatum come back from Achilles a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

We just saw Kirk Cousins tear his AC Achilles and Aaron Rodgers, and they couldn't fucking move for a year.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

You mean Kirk Cousins, the future quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers?

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Right. Yeah, he couldn't move in Atlanta the first year. Aaron Rodgers couldn't move.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

You're telling me Danny Dyes, man. He's young. Young man. He's younger. He's rich too. Rich as well.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

It's also not.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

He's rich. He's gonna go get the best care money can buy, brother, because he's got it.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Hey, bruh, that's a terrible. What are the colts doing? Imagine being so desperate for you know good players that you're willing to pay Alec Pierce and Daniel Jones and combined $80 million a year almost.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

I can't take this kind of hay. I'm a big fan of people that go and get a bag.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Well, there's $75 million between the Alec Pierce and Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

That's a lot of money. Would you want to build your team around that? You know, if if we're on Madden, probably not.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

In real life, is that a core that you would want to build your core with?

SPEAKER_02 27:43

I like Alec Pierce more than you do, so I might take Alec Pierce, but I wouldn't take Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

It's not that I wouldn't take Alec Pierce. We're taking Alec Pierce as your wide receiver one at $30 million.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

He is now your wide receiver one. You just gotta hope for Mike Evans like production. That's the type of wide receiver he is.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

I mean, Mike Evans is a $16 million quarter uh wide receiver right now.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Now he is.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

So you think Alec Pierce is just about to go on like an eight-year run of a thousand-yard season?

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Don't hear what I'm not saying. I didn't say he was Mike Evans, I said he is the type of receiver like Mike Evans. That's the type of production you want.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

I don't think Mike Evans is a 47-catch, thousand-yard receiver.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

No, but Mike Evans is a 70-catch guy. And I think that's what Alec Pierce could be.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

I don't want a 70-catch receiver being a 30 million.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

You would have paid in Mike Evans and his prime, you would have paid $30 million a year. I don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Well, well, I could pay $33 million a year and get 115 catches from Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, but Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Or I could pay $27.5 million and get $120 catches from the yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Jamar Chase has been banished to Siberia. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

No, he still got Joe Burrow throwing on the ball.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Yeah, banished to Siberia. Banished.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

You got St. Brown?

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Yeah, he's in a good situation. So it's not, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Yeah, you got so much talent around you that you're just out here.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

I'm just saying, bro, the wide receiver market was Alec Pierce. He went and got his bag. Let the man live.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

I just wouldn't pay the man that.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

You wouldn't? Carly Ursay would. Carly Ursay's family. She said she loved his family. Thinks he's a real nice guy.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

Talk to him on the sidelines with my earpiece.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

I'm just I'm just saying, man. You know, like she knows him. He's a great dude. He deserves that money.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

And you know what? He doesn't like to help the community. I know a lot of good people that don't make 30 million dollars.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Nope. You but if you knew him, you would know one.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Well, the problem is, bro, he didn't even look like, bro. Does he even look like a wide receiver?

SPEAKER_02 30:13

He's yoked. Have you seen him? But I said, no, I'll just look at his face. Y'all no, he doesn't. He looks like an accountant.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Like, I've not trusted him. I trust him to manage the 30 million a year we're paying him. I don't trust him to live up to the to the contract.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Oh, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Here's the thing, bro. A ther if he if he's a thousand yard receiver again. Would you is he worth 29 and a half million?

SPEAKER_02 30:42

It depends.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

If he's 1400, if he's 50 catches a thousand yards. If he's 70 catches a thousand yards.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

If he's 70 catches, he definitely probably has a well over a thousand. Like if he has 70 catches, he's in the 1400 yard room.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Or what if what what if he's got to be a good thing?

SPEAKER_02 31:01

And if he had if he goes 70, 14, and 9, you're gonna be like, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

But he you can't, you're not gonna be you're not gonna be putting up 20 20 yards a catch with getting that many targets. What are they gonna be throwing a bomb every play?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

It depends. Is Anthony Richardson back? Maybe. Green Bay Packers said they were interested. That's that's a real report, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yeah, we're just sending people to QB camp.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

We'll get a project, let them be a backup. He can come back to he can come back. We're only we're only committed to Danny Jones for two years.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Yeah, yeah. And it's not even this year, man. Just let him go to camp. Let him just go, let him go to trading camp.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Is there any way that we'll sign him to a two years more to his contract, and then that way when it runs out, you just let him go? Who? The Packers. That's what the Colts are saying to the Packers. Like, hey, we're gonna trade him, but we're gonna sign him to two extra years so he can spin those in Green Bay. And then when he comes open on the market, you let him go. You don't franchise tag him or anything.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

So then we spend and then in return, we have to offer him a $50 million.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

We give you Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

No. Oh God.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

We trade you Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

I mean, shit. I mean, look what he did for Malik Willis.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

I mean, he could do that for Anthony Richardson.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Dude, Malik Willis might be better.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

I don't know if Malik Willis threw the ball enough to have really any kind of opinion. I mean, Anthony Richardson threw the ball more times in one game than Malik Willis has in three years.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

That's true. Still.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Bro, he started six games and doesn't have and how many drawbacks does he have?

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Shout out to his agent. Shout out to Malik Willis for also saying that if he went to the Jets, it would have been career suicide.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

That's real.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

I don't know if it's real. I didn't vet it. I just was gonna run with it because it sounded good.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Hey, bruh. You know.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

I'm not an expert, so how am I supposed to know if it's real or not?

SPEAKER_00 33:16

We are not actual journalists.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Zero journalistic abilities.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Nor are we supposed to be that.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

I didn't claim it.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

Me neither.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

I just saw it on Facebook, brother.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

That's funny. We know it's fake then. The social media's become like a hundred percent. It's like 90, it's 90% fake news, 8% AI, and 2%, 1% meme.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Would you uh I we could use this as a crash out of the so first off, before we go here, do we have to set the president now? Like, are we gonna allow crash outs from other sports?

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

I vote yes.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

I don't think there's gonna be that many people crashing out this this whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Depends on how long Rasheed Rice stays in the sport, but he's just gonna be a repeat offender. Yeah. Uh yeah. So what is it, Aiden Holloway? Alabama? Alabama's guard.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Man, I don't know. I don't know if that's actually his name, man. It might be like Pablo Escobar, the Wii game. Yeah, but it was only a pound. I thought it was like a hundred pounds.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Was it a hundred? No fucking way. I would have been on this. I would have been on this if it was a hundred pounds. It would have been what we led off with.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

It might have been a pound.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

So if it's just a pound, still no bueno.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Yeah, I mean, how why are we try why are we at a pound of weed if we're getting NIL money?

SPEAKER_02 34:53

But but it's under the drug trafficking. I think the drug trafficking felony's three pounds. So look, if it's a hundred pounds, the kid's cooked. The kid's absolutely cooked. He's gonna be playing basketball in prison. Man. If it's one pound, any, you know, Alabama, you know, Alabama gets him a good lawyer. Man, two point one pounds of marijuana.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Where did I see a hundred from?

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

That's true. That's probably where I saw it, bro.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Uh yeah, two point one pounds of marijuana as residence. Expected to miss the NCAA tournament. Wow. That's it. Okay. Look, 2.1 pounds, he's good. He's golden, dude. He's gonna that University of Alabama's gonna get him a good lawyer or that NIO.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

I mean, they did let Brandon Miller. Yeah. He was only involved in a murder.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

He was only involved in a murder. This guy was trafficking marijuana.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

I mean, he should play in the tournament.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

If I'm Aiden Holloway, I'm like, bro, this is for personal consumption. I've smoked a lot of weed. He's like, all I do is listen to Wiz collision. He's like, yeah. He's like, do you know how stressful it is playing for the University of Alabama?

SPEAKER_00 36:27

I mean, nothing the little NIL can't fix.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Yeah, well, he definitely was spending.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

He's probably about to get a new deal with a dispensary, like the person that's gonna go and it goes legal.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

He's gonna no, he's just gonna transfer to like Oregon or Cal or Stanford. Yeah, and then he'll get the big he'll get the big NIL sponsorship. Cookies, backpack boys. Yeah, they reach out to him.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

They're like, look, man, we want you to be the new face of men.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

We're not even gonna give you money.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

We're just gonna give you weed. We're gonna pay you in weed. He's like, Ben, I can flip that.

SPEAKER_03 37:06

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

Hey, bro, I just I think the thing for me is it's crazy to think how I mean, clearly you're getting a bag to go to school now. Yeah. Like you don't go to, you know, you're getting paid enough at any of these colleges.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Facts.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

So why on earth would trapping be an option? You're not making enough money selling weed.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Maybe the weed was just so good he was like, I need a lot. He's like, Can I buy as much as you have? He's like, I want to buy all of it.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

You know, the fucked up part of it is I'm sure there's a couple teammates trapping with him. I hope that he's not trapping. What if like a Rico charge comes out of like the University of Alabama?

SPEAKER_02 37:53

Buddy, I wouldn't put it, I wouldn't put it past Nate Oates.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Yeah, he's the boss, like he's the leader of the pack.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Yeah, I would not put it past that man. He is wild. He wouldn't try to go in, bro.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

He is they pull up the campus. Like, all right, what car do you want?

SPEAKER_02 38:10

They're paying off, they're paying off judges to get people to get people eligible to play for mid-season. Like, he like my man is definitely dick. They're entangled. Yeah, like they're entangled. He is entangled.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

He's gotta be a dirtbag. He is a dirtbag.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

Dirt bag, the ultimate. And I would have been a guy, I'm a big Kansas fan. I would have been a guy that was like, hey, when Bill Self retires, Nate Oats is a guy I'd like to see Kansas go. I don't want Nate Oats, man. This guy is a dirt bag. Dirtbag. Brandon Miller thing. He don't give a fuck. He's like, Brandon Miller didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Hey, bro, my man's is out here really at all costs.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

At all costs. Look, bro, we're gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

He still ain't winning shit. And what's funny as fuck, bro? They bought that dude from the G League in, and bro, wasn't even a bucket in college. He was he's so how you go, how you gonna be an NBA player, come back and still like be weak as well.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

The first game he came back, they played Florida and they got beat by 30.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

How you play in the league and come back to college is terrible.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

It was getting bodied. And then that other dude was like, hold on, I want to do that shit too. Yeah, I don't blame him. I would too. If I sucked, I was like, damn, you mean tell me I can go back and go back and get paid a bag and play.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Yeah, and be good. Maybe. I mean, we saw we saw one of them come back and be terrible.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

That's true. It's different for a bit of a.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

He was so trash, they was like, nah, we might as well go ahead and stay ineligible.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Kicked him off the team. They're like, all right, bro, this is a waste of time.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

NATO saw that play and was like, hey, bro, real talk, we're good.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

You do not get to Pasco and you do not get to collect your $200.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

I'm only gonna pay you the deposit. You can go ahead and send him back to the go ahead and send him to Taiwan.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Like send him back to the North Carolina. What is the Greensboro?

SPEAKER_00 40:12

He's gonna get cut. They should cut his ass.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

The main lobster. They should cut him, bro. Send him back to the main lobster.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

They're gonna cut him and be like, hey, bro, look, we thought you something was just needed if it happened, but you went back down a level and was still trash there. Clearly, you are not cut out for this.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

This isn't gonna work, but you can go play in China, though. The Mexico could use a player like you.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

He's gonna be playing like that in that league like Kenny Powers was.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Was it Lance Stevenson? Didn't Lance Stevenson play in the Mexican league?

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Oh no, Dwight Howard played in the Puerto Rican League.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Yeah, the Puerto Rican League. All right, man. Let me uh we'll get we'll get into a little college basketball here at the end. Who do you you got any favorites for this upcoming tournament? It's gonna be all chalk, it feels like. I'm sorry. All chalk, no upsets.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

I feel like the chalk amongst the top. Like, I think I think Duke is damn near feels like they're a lock. All right. Michigan feels like they're a lock. Right. I'm a big fan. I've I don't know if I why I keep going back to this well. Maybe I just eventually have to be right. Once again, I'm gonna rock with the Houston Cougars to make a run.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Man, I feel you. I've been calling this for years too, man. I want it to have you.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

We watched them sell us at the casino.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

We definitely did. We definitely did.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Ah, yeah. I like Kelvin Samson and I'm gonna be able to do that. I feel like the teams, I feel like the teams at the top feel like they're just like really good, and then everybody leaps and bounds.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

They feel they feel leaps and bounds better. Here's the thing, though, is when there's so many good freshmen, like there's a lot of fresh. Like AJ DeMonster could absolutely go in and win a couple games. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

He's that's a solid team, though. They well, they lost that one player and haven't been the same.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

You know, so there's a bunch of those. Darren Peterson's one of those guys. Yeah. He could he could go in there and do something like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

You're not gonna like this. I'll have y'all as a candidate for early exit.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Man, an early exit. Playing St. John's in the second round is is no bueno. I mean, I just don't say Cal Baptist.

SPEAKER_00 42:29

Nah, I ain't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Don't say that.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

You know, it might be on the board. Nah. Nah, I'm not a dirt bag like that. I like those two upsets I love.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

Okay, I'll give you I'll give you two. I'll give you two plus money bets. Alright. It's definitely South Florida versus Louisville.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

I like that one too.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Depending, well, it look, it really depends on Mikhail Brown if we're being 100% honest.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

I don't think that their team, like he just like you can't win in March depending on like he's one of those guys.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

That's what I mean, though. He's one of those guys.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

He's just one of those guys, like he's got it's gotta be on your radar.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

They're just not really great around him. I don't like what's around him.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

He can he can take over a game, though. It's just something you gotta keep in mind when you're betting on the tourney. Right? It's just something you gotta keep in mind. And then it's look, the Duncan fans are not gonna want to hear this. It's definitely Santa Clara.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

Oh, you like that too.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Yeah, and then it's also VCU over North Carolina.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

It's it's AM over St. Mary's. I like that. They're always a good candidate for a first round exit.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

I like that. Love that action. I actually picked that on my bracket.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Akron over Texas Tech's not crazy, especially after losing JT Toppin for the season.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

I uh Hopstra over Alabama. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

Now they lost the the Wii, man.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

And it's they lost the bag, man.

SPEAKER_00 43:58

They're not the same. A smoke, no good bag since he got busted.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

A couple other uh, I think these are 10-7 matchups. U UCF, UCLA. UCF's a decent team. And I kind of like UCLA. I like UCLA too. It's just, you know, it's one of those games. And then Missouri, Miami. It's a 10-7 matchup that you might be able to take some plus money on.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

I want to throw one out there and you're gonna be like, wow, shout out to my future brother-in-law. We got a little personal ties to this one.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

All right.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

We're going high point over Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

Okay. Oh, yeah. I could, I could absolutely see that.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

So, yeah, my my future brother-in-laws, he used to actually coach with one of their assistant coaches.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

At high point?

SPEAKER_00 44:45

Nah, they used to he coach with them at like a prep school.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

Oh, okay. No, I'm saying he coaches at high point. He coaches at high point now. Okay, yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

He's one of the assistant coaches.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

I'll ride with that. You know me. I like getting rich.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

They are nice.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

I like I like getting rich, brother.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

So there's there's my one pick. You uh you named all the other ones that I like. I was big on uh AM. I had them. Santa Clara was on my board. I don't like Missouri.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

Do you if I told you that the spread for the LIU Arizona game was 30 and a half, would you take the plus 30 and a half points?

SPEAKER_00 45:23

I would take Arizona.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

You would take the minus 30 and a half points.

SPEAKER_00 45:27

Yeah, that that's a yeah, they're gonna beat the fuck out of them. Okay. You know, I'm gonna give you another candidate for an early exit. Alright. And you're gonna like this too. I feel like you might agree. The Connecticut Huskies.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Oh. So they haven't been playing well at the end of the season?

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Real bad. Real rough.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

Who do they who do they run up against? I can't remember. Let's see. I'll tell you here in just a second. It is the Furman. What are they?

SPEAKER_00 45:54

I'm not talking about round one, but they look like they could lose round two. Who would they match up against?

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Furman. In round two. Oh, in red. Oh fuck. I don't have a bracket in front of me. I'm just looking at DraftKings, you son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Yeah, they look like Purdue is another team I don't see going that far.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

I disagree. I like Purdue this year.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

They have potential, but they're just too inconsistent. I like I think that's a problem. I think that's the thing that's gonna make like these tournaments have been like better, it feels like, is like the upsets don't feel like as much of an upset anymore.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Why?

SPEAKER_00 46:31

Like the gap is closed.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Yeah. But at the same time, part of the reason why you don't, you know, like we got a couple, there were some years you remember like George Mason back in the day in like 08. Yeah, but I'm talking about a two-year run. Remember that Butler team?

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Yeah, they had a two-year run. That was a great team, though.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

Yeah, but I'm saying like part of the reason why we're not gonna get those anymore, though, is just because they go and poach, you know, Boston College can go and offer the best player on that dude's team 600.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Is that San Diego State?

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Yeah, but they're a legitimate basketball school. They give a fuck about basketball. Not anymore. They need Brad Stevenson. What a find by those guys.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

Yeah, but I mean, there's you know, who else? Florida Atlantic.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Yeah, it's dead.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

What do you mean? They just have I mean Dusty May is gone. I'm saying those teams are gonna pop up somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

I guess they did have a two-year run. They were elite. Yeah, they were elite.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

We got robbed that year one year we played them, but you know, that's neither here.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Who, Memphis? Yeah, we got robbed. We got robbed. Absolutely did get robbed.

SPEAKER_00 47:43

We watched that too.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

That should have been y'all.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Man, still to this day.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

That should have been y'all.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Who's my boy? What uh was it Kendrick Davis?

SPEAKER_02 47:52

If some people like McNece over Vanderbilt, do you like that?

SPEAKER_00 47:56

Man, not really.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Yeah, I don't like it either. I like Vandy. I think Vandy's a good team. Give me a lock. You got any locks? I could tell you a lock. Tell me a lock. I haven't even like looked at minus 15 and a half. Arkansas over Hawaii. I don't know, bro. Hawaii can score. It doesn't matter, bro.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Put up a lot of points.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

I don't care. They're not gonna put up a lot of points against Arkansas.

unknown 48:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

I guess that's fair.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Darius Acuffs on a generational heater.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

You let me tell you what, I gotta bet. We ain't even gotta wait all the way to the tournament for this one. Tomorrow night, I like SMU minus six and a half.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Oh, here we go. Water bet. You don't like that? Because I'm going Miami, Ohio, brother. Money line? Absolutely. I'm rocking the money line.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

That's Boopy Miller's gonna go crazy.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Don't look, don't hear me. Don't I'm not saying they're better. I'm saying I'm just betting them all. I'm just betting on the principle that the 31-1, they can only play who they could play, and they beat the teams that they did.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

I mean, I just so maybe we sat here and watched these people struggle against Western Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

My boy's coming into the locker room. It's alright, it's five minutes before tip. A man's coming in the locker room, he says. He gives them you ever seen the miracle, the movie you have when they're when they're playing against Russia. He looks at him, he's like, we might lose this game nine times. Or yeah, he's like, we might lose this game nine out of ten times, but not this one. Not this time. They're gonna come out and get the fuck beat out of this. They're gonna come out, no, but they're gonna play inspired basketball.

SPEAKER_00 49:53

No, in reality, what's gonna happen? He's gonna say, guys, we had a great season. I'm gonna just keep it real with you. I'm getting a new job. He is gonna get a new job. You know, like I'm not gonna be here next year. Chances are I'm probably gonna go to a school where I'm not gonna need you to come with me.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 50:14

So I really don't give a fuck if we win or lose this game.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

You feel strongly about this bet? Like, is this a good one?

SPEAKER_00 50:19

I like SMU, I like SMU minus six and a half.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

I just like when I watch SMU, I'm just not that impressed.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

Ah, they're just so up and down, too. But man, it's just hard for me to look.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

I've also watched Miami of Ohio, brother, and I was not that impressed.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

That's right. But I you feel better about them playing ACC competition.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

No.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Then it's essentially look, here's why So you're telling me that they're struggling against, you know, Virginia Techs and North Carolina, Clemson's Duke. Alright, look, the worst ACC team is going undefeated in the Mac.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

I don't know about that. Who's the worst ACC team? Boston College, probably.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

I don't know. They're going undefeated in the Mac.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Boston College? Yes. Oh, dude. They're fucking they're terrible. It's over. Bro, the Mac's fucking Dude, the Mac gets up, brother. The Mac gets up.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Name me some good teams in the Mac.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Akron. That's Toledo. It was Toledo, Akron, and Miami, Ohio. But Akron and my but Akron and Toledo are always good. No, say that shit with a say that shit with a straight face. Say that shit with a straight face. The Mac, you know. The Mac's lit, brother.

SPEAKER_00 51:40

Especially from football season. The Mac, here's what it stands for. Monkey ass cop or that shit is trash.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

It's really lit come football season.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

Oh, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

Yeah, and then you get those Tuesday night games. It's like negative 22 degrees in the middle of Michigan.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

It's Eastern Michigan versus Ball State.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

It's like we got blizzard conditions out there. You can't even see the football being snapped. There's like 13 people in the stand.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

Man, they're fucking terrible. Trash. That conference is trash.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

And 73 points have been scored in that game.

SPEAKER_00 52:14

Trash. I'd rather South Alabama. It's crazy. South Alabama would be South Alabama. Austin P is beating Miami Ba.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Damn. I went and watched Austin P in person, brother. I can sit here and look at you, and me and you and three other people from the YMCA could get out there and compete with that Austin P basketball team. No, bro, they were solid. Yeah, so are we. They were solid, bro. We can be solid too. That's it, man. We're out of here. Episode 12 is a wrap. Come see us for episode 13. Like, subscribe, hit us up, let us know what you want us to talk about. If you say something stupid, we're probably gonna let you know about it.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Man.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

No, we're not gonna talk about anything that sucks.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

Nothing that sucks.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

The tournament doesn't suck.

SPEAKER_00 53:13

That's why it's you know, I we haven't, we've kind of gotten out of our bag a little bit. We haven't had a motivational quote the past couple episodes.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

Guess what? You got one?

SPEAKER_00 53:24

No, the fuck I don't.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

We'll have one. Look, look, hear me out. We'll have one for you on episode 13.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

We're gonna get back in the lab. We're gonna get back to our roots.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

Man.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

We're gonna get the intro back. We're gonna, you know.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

Yeah, I guess we do gotta figure out the intro.

SPEAKER_00 53:41

We gotta figure out a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

We gotta figure out the intro. Don't worry, it's all coming soon.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

We're all having fun. We're just practicing.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Man, two guys in lab coats, brother.

SPEAKER_00 53:51

Two guys in lab coats with no idea what we're talking about. Coming live from the cave, not a cave. That's it. And we'll see y'all on the next one. That's it, right there.