Breece Denied Parole, Geno Evicted & The NFL is in Absolute Chaos

The NFL offseason is already completely off the rails. We break down David Montgomery to Houston, Travis Etienne hitting free agency, Breece Hall getting “denied parole” with the franchise tag, and growing trade rumors around AJ Brown. Plus the Patriots cut Stefon Diggs, DJ Moore heads to Buffalo, Geno Smith somehow gets cut twice, and Ryan Clark delivers one of the wildest QB takes we’ve ever heard.

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Double digits.

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Man, another accolade is in the book. Double digits, episode 10. Who would have thunk?

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Back in the cave. Live from the cave. And before you ask, no, it's not a real cave. It's not a real cave. Alright, quit asking. It's a fake cave. I don't think people are asking if the cave is real. They haven't. Zero people have asked me if the cave is real.

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I have been asked why do we call it the cave?

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I hope you tell them that the question's never why, but it's always why not.

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That wasn't how I answered it. Not even close.

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That's how I would answer it.

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I said, you know, it just kind of happened. He said I was like, we're recording, and my man said we're live from the cave, and it's just been, you know, we just have to emphasize that it's actually not a cave.

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Before people think that we're rich and own a cave.

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I mean, rich doesn't always isn't always defined by money.

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That's true. We could be live from Ameth Cave.

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Right.

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One of the seven wonders of the world.

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Allegedly.

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Oh, brother. We got some breaking news. Man. Let's just we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna just audible. We had a list of things to talk about, but this news is big enough to where we can just audible to it. That's right.

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Man, right right before we walk into the cave. Dude. Get an alert, and it says Max Crosby has been traded to the Baltimore Ravens. Two first. Two first round picks. It's a great deal. You think so? Absolutely. It's gonna help out their team significantly. Significantly.

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I mean There's no way that the Ravens aren't the odds-on favorite to go Super Bowl champion.

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What?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I don't know.

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I feel that's oh god, that's a reach, but I think that that well, I mean, they were what, one of the favorites last year before the season?

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I mean, they were one of the worst defenses in the league last year.

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They just made a big upgrade.

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I know another team that had the were one of the worst defenses in the league and also had Max Crosby on that team.

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That's true, but they also had that guy.

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They didn't have a uh a defensive mind leading the way, though, so I expect it to be better. I mean, I don't know if I would necessarily call him the Super Bowl favorite. I don't even know if I would call them the AFC favorite.

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You don't think that Lamar, a healthy Lamar Jackson, doesn't I mean like what would you put their win total at?

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I'd still I'd probably have it at like 10.5, 11. That's 10 and a half.

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That's absolutely gonna be in the top five of Super Bowl favorites.

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I mean, I feel like there's a lot of teams whose win total is like over 10 and a half. I would probably put it at 11 and a half. So you you like okay, so if Pat comes back, you like Baltimore over the over over the Chiefs?

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He's not gonna be he won't be back. They're talking about Russell Wilson being the bridge quarterback.

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I mean, you know, Andy Reid might bring him back, bring some, bring something out of him.

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Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I'm just saying that if they're in a position to be a winning team, depending on what ends up happening with Rasheed Rice and what they do at running back, and they have a lot of holes to fill. They also made a big move. A great move. Massive. I loved it.

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I think when I saw I liked it when I saw that it was a first-round pick.

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I was like, oh, before we get to that, I'm not done talking about this. Go ahead. I think you know, like Max Crosby is what you would consider a game breaker.

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Yeah, they also have Kyle Hamilton out there.

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Game breaker.

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They just don't have they just don't have much like outside of that.

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I mean, there's so the crazy thing, I don't know how true it is now, especially after the man. I mean, you gave up two firsts, so that's a lot of draft capital.

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There's a lot of draft capital.

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I doubt you would go and give up more draft capital, but I read that them and the Pats, like the Ravens and the Pats were the two favorites to land AJ Brown.

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I probably feel like, especially after the Patriots cut digs, I'd probably say the Patriots are probably in prime position to.

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I also think that I read that they offered a first and a third for AJ Brown and got shut down by Howie Roseman.

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Howie Roseman's a dog.

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I don't know how true that is.

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Like, I mean, if he traded a first, if all he traded was the 18th pick like years ago for AJ Brown and has since paid him twice. And and and then you get more than what you traded for. That's just that bad. You got a ring out of it. You got a well, you got two Super Bowl appearances out of it. No, they didn't have to.

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Yeah, and with the first two seasons he was there, he was a 1,400 yard receiver. Yeah. Almost.

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The first time they went to the Super Bowl, they did have AJ Brown. Yeah. Yeah. So two Super Bowl appearances, a ring.

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Yeah. You know, two great seasons. He's he is one of the best GMs in football.

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Yeah, I mean, that's a win for them. But back to Baltimore, I don't, I'm not taking them over. I'm not taking them over. The Bills also made a good move. Josh Allen gets a guy.

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You know, it'll just it'll really depend on what they end up doing with the receivers. You still got the Chargers. You still have the NFL's gonna be the Broncos. It's gonna be turnt next year.

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Man, it's gonna be good. They put Joe Burrow in hell. You got Cam Ward and the Titans? Yeah. Hey man, somebody's gotta go from worse to finish.

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I want you to understand the hell that Joe Burrow's gonna have to go through.

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TJ Watt, Max Crosby. Jesus Christ. Six games a year. You gotta see an absolute dog.

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You gotta see three different game records three times.

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You're arguing, you're looking, you're probably looking at three of the top five pass rushers in the game. And they have you got a shitty offensive lineman.

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Oh man, one of the worst.

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They're gonna draft seven different offensive linemen. Man, the and the AFC just set like it's just feels like it's super stacked.

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And the crazy thing is, is, you know, like who's the I mean, you would probably say the Ravens are the best team in that division, right?

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Yeah, I mean I would have said that healthy. I mean Lamar's healthy. I mean, you gotta think, bro. I don't Pittsburgh's taking a step back.

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Yeah, right. This is what I'm saying. Like, it's not like that division, like you wouldn't say that the Browns are great, they're terrible. No, right. You wouldn't say that Pittsburgh's great.

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No, and then you got the Bengals who, I mean, hell, their defense is so bad that it doesn't even matter if Joe Burrow's playing at an MVP level or on the field at all.

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Right. Look, they might it might not be Super Bowl favorites, but they're absolutely like the Ravens are gonna absolutely be division favorites.

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Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. I mean, they're definitely a contender. I mean, I feel like they would have could have been a contender without Max Crosby. Without going and getting Max Crosby. Just thought the fact is is I mean, Derek Henry still is playing at a high level. Lamar, if he comes back healthy, yeah. I mean they probably would have needed another piece. They are losing they are losing their center.

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They do, they do need another piece. They need another wide receiver.

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Like Zay Flowers is for for as good as he is, he's just not a one. But like honestly, too, though, I don't know. I feel like part of that's like just the system that they play in, though. Well, I mean, I mean, like, I feel like it's one of those things where like there's just not enough volume.

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Yeah, if they went and got AJ Brown, how would that make you feel?

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I mean For at least a year. Get them another weapon, yeah.

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I mean For at least a year, I would I would think that they would have to be the top two of Super Bowl favorites. And I'm saying that as I feel like they are now. That's crazy.

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Yeah, I mean, if they get AJ Brown, I don't know if I put them up there. It's just they're still lacking a lot on defense. I mean, Max Crosby is a huge addition, but I mean there's they're still gonna need some pieces. We expect we expect them to get a bump just because of like who they hired.

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They do need to draft well. That'll be that'll be super important.

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And you know, here's another thing. We we don't know how much of it was Harbaugh.

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That's true.

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You know, we don't know how much of their success was Harbaugh too. I don't know. Do we know you got some contract drama with Lamar?

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Do we know who the Ravens hired as their OC? No, who is it? I don't know. I'll I'll have to look it up, but I mean that'll probably be a big factor too. I say that, but I mean it's not like Lamar wasn't successful with Tyler Monica.

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I'm just I don't know. I just I don't know. I've obviously it's way too early to tell in the AFC, but I just like like on paper, it's just like I don't know. I I don't I just don't know who I would say is like the number one. Like I can't say that it I I can see like 10 teams come 10, 11 teams being playoff teams out of the AFC.

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It was I do remember this, it was uh Deaclin Doyle. Declan. Declan Doyle. Yeah, it came from Chicago. But do you not think that? What?

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Like you don't you don't think that that there's like 10, 11 teams that you could see being like a legitimate playoff team going into next year? Oh, yeah, for sure.

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We I mean we haven't we haven't talked about it yet, but I'm fucking we might as well get into it. I've said enough about Miles Max Crosby going to the Ravens. I think it's look it's a great move for the Ravens. I think it's worth the two first round picks. Shout out to the Ravens for being contenders. I just don't love it for the age and the contract. That's fine. I look, I do truly believe I think Max Crosby's built a little different, so I think you'll get I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna but he'll get to, you know.

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I mean the talent's definitely there.

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36, 37, maybe with a productive guy, you know, he being productive.

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He made the same move that I made in fantasy, going, you go get one of them guys, man. If he's if it works out, you got him for two great years, you win a Super Bowl, you'll trade two first-round picks for him. Now it's like I did in Dynasty for Derrick Henry, right, and it worked.

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Yeah, it absolutely worked. Now, with that being said, some people call him a guy, other people say he's not the guy, he's just a guy. But Josh Allen got him a wide receiver one. DJ Moore. What did you think about this trade?

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I mean, like, I I obviously it's a significant addition for Buffalo. I mean, giving up a second round pick for DJ Moore, I'd probably rather have just traded a first for AJ Brown.

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That's a hot take.

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I mean, he's I mean, we're talking about wide receiver ones. If you look at it, like, where do you put DJ Moore? Like, he yes, he is a wide receiver one. I think it makes sense. If you look at him in comparison to other wide receiver ones, he's probably the 15th, 16th, 17th receiver.

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Yeah, and now look, I don't necessarily disagree. It makes sense. It just makes sense to me. Like him and Joe Brady have been together. Yeah. He he had one of his. Yeah, he had one of his better years of his career under Joe Brady. They're familiar with each other. You know, I think it I think it makes sense. I think it's a good move. I he'll fit. I think he'll fit great, especially with the way Josh Allen can extend plays. You got a guy, yeah, he, you know, you got a guy that can be playing.

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Yeah, he's reliable. He plays.

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Absolutely.

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He's healthy.

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I don't think he's ever missed a game in his NFL career.

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Yeah, so I mean, like, I I like DJ Moore. He's a good receiver. I I like that, you know, I think it's more than just who he is, more so of what he does for the rest of that offense.

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Yeah.

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Like, I mean, even now with you go in, you got Shakir, you got Keon Coleman.

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Yeah, I like that.

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But he's still a first-round pick. If everybody's talking about, hey, we still believe in this guy.

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Well, they stood on the table.

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He stood on the table.

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They stood on the table for that guy.

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So, I mean, for I think the totality of it, it definitely makes our offense a lot better. Dog and Kincaid.

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Yeah.

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Had a he had a bounce back year last year.

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I think that uh not really.

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I mean, he got had some injuries.

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You know what they say, man? You know what the best ability is?

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Availability.

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Brother. He was nice.

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But he still he still looked better than he did year two when he was.

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Well, it also you know what it helps with it. He's not gonna have to be the focal point of the game.

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He still got James Cook, yeah.

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Like he won't have to be the focal point of the passing game. Neither will Khalil Shakir. I think it'll help both of those guys.

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But you know, I and I will say this DJ Moore is like I would rather have DJ Moore at that contract than you know, going and paying somebody 34, 35 million dollars. Try if I'm trying to win a Super Bowl.

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Yeah, now what if I told you they went and signed a Mike Evans?

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Oh, then I'd love it even more. Or Tyree Kill. Then at that point, you're gonna have like maybe too many weapons. Uh, I don't know.

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Of course you can never have too many weapons. But the crazy thing is, it's not even like it was necessarily their offense that was the problem.

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Yeah, that's fair too.

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Like it was that defense was pretty bad.

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Yeah, but their offense took a step back. Well, it's not even that I wouldn't even say that not from a step back perspective. It was just like Josh Allen, like their season depended on Josh Allen being Superman.

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Right.

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Probably more so than it's ever had. Like he had to play at a higher level for them to be successful.

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And a lot of that was their defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. Yeah, it was bad.

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Well, even then, I mean their offense wouldn't exit wasn't exactly lighten it up. No.

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Well, I mean, it's tough to light it up when Khalil Shakir's your number one. Right. So that that's why I'm that's why I like it for them. It helps him out a lot. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

I don't know how I feel about like the paying them for two more years. Like you guarantee his contract through 2028.

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Yeah, but it cleared it cleared cap. I think you cleared like 16 million dollars in cap for him. Oh, that's okay. Well then that makes a little sense more sense. I didn't see it. Yeah, they may go ahead and make another move. I mean, they cut like three different defensive players today, too. They gotta add they they gotta add something on D. Yeah, absolutely. There was another trade. It's been oh man, we had a good week. Good week for news. Man, a good news week. Great news in a slow off season.

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The Chiefs trading all pro corner, Trent McDuffie.

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Oh, damn, that wasn't even the one I was gonna bring. Yeah, that's a crazy trade, too.

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That's a that's what good organizations do.

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Yeah.

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They got a haul for him.

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When was the last time they paid a corner that they drafted? It's been a while. What a haul. They got an absolute haul. What is my boys? Uh what's the GM of the Rams? What's it less need?

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Yeah, FM picks.

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Man, he'd definitely be saying fuck those picks.

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Yeah, I mean, he's like the it's it's with crazy that they gave up that much because of once again, it goes to the you trade up the cat, the value, and you gotta pay the player.

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Yeah, but you're getting an all-pro corner. Yeah, but he could have absolutely been a good one.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

It's one of those things, man. Lejarius Sneed leaves Kansas City. Not the same corner. Look, yeah. Let's stop. Let's slow down. Who was the one before him? Was it uh was it Chevarius Ward?

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Yeah, but he was he was what he went to San Francisco? He was okay.

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Yeah, he I mean he wasn't he's not been an all-pro corner.

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But let's let's chill out on the Lejarius Sneed thing. It's not like he went to uh it's not like he went to the Chargers. Okay.

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Alright, I'll give you that.

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He went to the Titans.

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I mean, you that that doesn't mean that you had just like if you're good, you should be good anywhere, right? Like if you're a good player, you're a good player. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you're an all-pro talent.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Right. They said the same thing about Randy Moss and Julio Jones.

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Randy Moss is like one of the best ever.

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Right. Well, he wasn't when he played for the Titans.

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He was washed. That's okay. I'm just saying. I'm just saying Andre Johnson, too. Man, Andre Johnson. Yeah, I forgot what. People at 35 years old coming in, and because they're not an all-pro.

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Don't worry. Don't worry. Tyree kill coming soon.

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Oh. Where the receivers go to die.

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Mike Evans coming and said we're gonna sign them both. You thought we were gonna sign Wandale.

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They're still linking us to Wandell.

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They are. They said that the Giants want him back, though. So it might be a bidding. Might have a bid war.

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How much are you paying for a Wandell?

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Not an insane amount. You're not paying Alec Pierce money? I would rather pay Alec Pierce. Yeah. Absolutely. I would absolutely rather pay Alec Pierce than I would Wandell if I had to pay that type of money.

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I don't know. I just think Alec Pierce is a one-trick pony.

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He's really good at it. He is really good at it. He's really good at it. It's not like Wandell can't do that. You know what the crazy thing is about Wandell? Is he maybe puts up like the quietest 90 to 100 catches a year.

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Yeah, like it doesn't feel like it at all. Never.

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Never at all.

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He told me that he got 140 targets in back-to-back ears. I was like, man, I really think.

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He's like one of three receivers in the league to do that.

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I need to go back and watch the film because like it never feels like it.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Yeah, well, look, a lot of it's, you know, some bubble screens in there, brother. It's some bunch of bubble screens.

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It's the NFL these days.

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Yeah. I got another trade. You know what? Grade that trade. I want you to grade the Rams Chiefs trade.

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I think it's an A plus for the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Alright. What do you think it is for the Rams?

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I would probably give it a B for the Rams.

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Okay. Alright.

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I mean, I feel like you gave up a lot.

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You did.

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Like, I don't think we look at like Trent McDuffie like, yes, we think he's really good, but like, do we look at him like he's we he's clearly nowhere near like a Pat Sertan or Yeah. I mean he's or a uh Christian Gonzalez.

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I've seen some people say he's a top five corner in the league.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Do you think he's a top five corner in the league?

SPEAKER_00 18:12

I don't know if I'd say top five, but I would say top ten.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Yeah, but I mean the gap between the top, top, and the tenth is a good one. I would even I would you might go top seven. I don't I mean there's not enough, there's not nearly as many like over. I don't think it's a good one. It's the same way.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

No, no, screw that. Because it's the same way with corners as it is with wide receivers and running back. It's a tier system. It's so hard to go, yeah, he's the seventh best corner in the NFL. Like he's I know who the first is. He's great. Like he's too is the first one. Yeah, okay, that's fine. But Stingley's up there getting rid of it. Right. He's sick. Like you would still be like, yeah, like if somebody got Pat Sertan before you, but Derek Stingley was right there, you'd be like, I mean, that's not the end of the world.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Yeah. Right. But if you could have had Pat Sertan and you said, nah, I'll take because you know I'll take somebody else next round, and then you get you know, Trent McDuffie, you're like, oh, that's a bit there's a big gap. And how much of it was the Chiefs is spags?

SPEAKER_00 19:13

That's true too.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

I mean, they run a what I feel like some corner, I feel like if there's a thing, it's like a scheme thing, corner could be one of those.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Right. Well, you definitely don't like the Titans being linked to Jalen Watson. Solid. That's why, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Not giving up a first-round pick for them.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

No, no.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

That's the difference, is the compensation.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

I got another trade for you.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Well, which one we going next?

SPEAKER_00 19:36

David Montgomery traded to the Texans for like a fourth. Dude, it was initially reported as a fifth. Allegedly, there was another team involved that came in and said, Well, look, we'll give you more than a fifth. And then the Texans came in and were like, we'll just give you whatever you want. We'll give you a fourth, a seventh, and a player.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

I mean, you go get one of those players. If that's somebody that you love, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yeah, we'll pay you. Yeah, look, we'll trade a fourth, a seventh, and a player for a 29-year-old running back. So you don't love it? I I think it's a good move for this year. I think David Montgomery still got the juice.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

I don't think that the Texans are a David Montgomery away from a Super Bowl appearance.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

No, they're an offensive line. They needed an offensive line and they traded two of them this week. Well, they're probably gonna go heavy in the draft. They're another team. Them and the Bengals are gonna draft 14 offensive linemen. They're gonna trade for more picks.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

You gotta be bound to get a couple of them good enough to actually play.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

You would think. You would think. Wouldn't put it past that. There's a great, no, there's a great clip. There's a great if you you've seen it, you watched the game. It was it was when the Titans and the Texans played. And they were like, the the meme I saw it said, How good was the Texans O-line in 2025? And it was when Jeffrey Simmons, it was the Jeffrey Simmons got back there at like 0.5 seconds. Yeah. You're like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Jeff Simmons might be the best.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

They traded that guard away that Jeff Simmons beat.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I'm surprised you had to trade him. I don't know. I mean, Jeff Simmons is probably the best position in the league.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

It's crazy that you could find a trade partner for, you know, a shitty right tackle and a shitty guard, but you couldn't find a trade partner for Kyler Murray.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Man, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

I read, I read that a lot of that, I read a lot of that though, was just because they were trying to salary dump it. And they were just like, nah. Everybody was like, everybody was like, nah, we ain't gonna allow you to salary dump that on us, brother.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

So do you think what what do you think David Montgomery means for Houston then? Like, do you think that puts them you like them over Jacksonville next year in the division?

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Probably so. Jacksonville stands to lose a little bit on defense and

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Well they're gaining a full-time corner.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

That's true. And you know, hey, look, he was a you know he's the number two overall pick for a reason. There's a there is a chance where he's legit.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

As much shit as we talked.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yeah, but man, look, the Jags D still, I feel like it's a good one. It should still be good.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Yeah, absolutely. It should still be good.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

It's not as good as a re-emergence. I remember going into last year, I was screaming from the top of my lungs that Trevor Lawrence sucks.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

And then he had a dark horse MVP caliber season.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

He heard that some guys that weren't experts were talking shit.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

There were also guys that were experts talking shit too.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

That's true. We don't listen to those guys.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

We listen to ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I think uh I think David Montgomery doesn't really move the needle for me. I don't I don't see their ceiling getting raised anymore.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

I would probably, if I had to bet today, like when the line does come out, like they're probably the odds on favor to win the division. It's because of that defense though. Yeah. I don't know if, but yeah, David Montgomery's still he's better than Woody Marks.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Yeah, but part of it too with David Montgomery is man, that that offensive line.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

There's no way it can be as bad.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

The offensive line in Detroit was good.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Right, that's true. He also had Jameer Gibbs. Yeah. He'll definitely be splitting work with Woody Marks, though. Not that Woody Marks is Jameer Gibbs by any means, but he'll get some work.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

I mean, he Woody Marks put enough on film for me to say he should have been like I would have liked to see him be the starter getting carries next year.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Yeah. I mean, look, he'll definitely get work. How much work will determine you said the same thing though when Damian Pierce was there and it was Joe Mixon coming in. You're like, well, they'll definitely split carries, and they were like, we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Damian Pierce was also coming off like a like a like an 1,100 yard rookie season.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Yeah. In which you were like, oh man, Damian Pierce might be the guy. And then Joe Mixon, they just ran him into the ground until they broke his foot, and then he lied about it. And yeah, hopefully.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

It's all bad. It's all bad. Went downhill.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

I do think I do think that the uh in the short term it it makes the Texans better. I'm very interested for fantasy purposes in David Montgomery now.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

I would too. I just don't I just don't like CJ Stroud anymore. You just ever since he little broke Caleb Dog.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

It's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Just been downhill ever since. And that offensive line's abysmal.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

It's all bad. It's all bad with CJ Stroud. You never hear anything good coming out of the CJ Stroud camp. Nah, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

He just he had that great rookie season and thought he was just everything was just peaches and cream.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

We heard the amber road, the amber rose curse. Maybe in effect. We're just waiting for him to go crazy. Before we go any further, I cannot go without mentioning the New York Jets. Made sure that Brees Hall stays in hell. Didn't even give him the transition. Brees Hall being franchise tag is like being up for parole and being denied. What a comparison. That's gotta be how my boy feels.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Man, he's like I always wanted to bet on myself. Like, why would he even want to? Like, I would if I was him, I wouldn't even be wanting to like work out a deal.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Well, look, the the only good thing about it is if you have Brees Hall in fantasy and you're like real bummed out like myself, you just have to tell yourself, look, my boy's in a contract year, so he has no choice but to go crazy.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

They're gonna they're gonna give the ball to Braylon Allen.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

That would be a very just thing to do. I'm done. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Here we go. Let's talk about the Bengals and not trying to resign Trey Hendrickson on an already bad defense.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

I'm glad that saga's over.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yeah, good for him. He look, he deserves to be able to go somewhere and get paid.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Yeah. Yeah, it's a mad, you know, it took too long.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

He deserves to go somewhere and have a real chance.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Yeah, I mean, the defense and you know, for both sides of it. If you're the Bengals, I mean it's like, why would I pay somebody who my who my defense is terrible with them too?

SPEAKER_00 26:23

If you're the if you're the say the Dallas Cowboys, would you pay you trying to give Trey Hendrickson a bag? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

I mean, you gotta do something for to make up for Michael Parsons leaving. That was a big that's a big loss for the defense.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Who, the Bengals? Or the Cowboys?

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Or losing Michael Parsons, like getting getting Trey Hendrickson back? Or like getting adding Trey Henderson to the replace that major upgrade.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

Yeah. Not for losing Michael Parsons, but just where they are today. Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

I mean, Trey Hendrickson's a dog.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

A dog. What was it two years ago? Yeah, like 21 sacks? Yeah. Nobody talked about him like they talked about Miles Garrett. Yeah. Even more impressive. Somebody's got to be a bright spot.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Might as well be him. Colts use the transition tag on Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

It makes sense. Makes a ton of sense.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

I mean, do you see Daniel Jones like get having a lot of suitors? No, probably not.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

I mean you were you were big on Indiana Jones to start the season. Yeah. Dude, you could not be. Did you watch him play? He played.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Yeah, but I was also screaming at the top of my lungs when that shit was going on. Like, slow your roll, cowboy, hold your whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

And that's fine, but you're not it's over now. Like it's over. Like it's almost impossible to say that now with what we've seen be done. Sam Darnold has changed the game. It's the same way if Kyler Murray is to go to Minnesota or Pittsburgh. Man, maybe not Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Kyler Murray hasn't looked as bad as Daniel Jones has looked.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

He also didn't look as bad as Sam Darnold had looked. Who was worse at the start of their career? Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones?

SPEAKER_01 28:11

I mean, they were both bad.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Yeah, but who was worse?

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Well, Daniel Jones had a career year and played half the season.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

That's fine. I'm just answer my question. Who was worse?

SPEAKER_01 28:20

I don't know. It's hard to grade anybody that played for the Jets.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

And the Giants. That's fair too. Sam Darnold never took the Jets to a playoff game.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

There's not many who have.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Chad Pennington. We're talking about Vinny Testaverdi and Mark Sanchez.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, he beats the shit out of Uber drivers.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Hey, my man was on a hell of a concoction. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_00 28:46

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Bro, they said my man was off alcohol, cocaine, fent.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Oh yeah. He was having a good day.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Man, he was getting turked. He was like, I got a football game to watch tomorrow and commentate.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

The Uber Eats guy was fucking with his food. He's like, what the fuck, man?

SPEAKER_01 29:08

But fuck you up. It was probably now finding that out. He's probably seeing shit.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Did you I'm assuming you didn't like the transition tag for Daniel Jones?

SPEAKER_01 29:19

I like it as a Titans fan because that means the Colts have Daniel Jones. Okay. I mean, they're probably going to match it.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Look, I think I'm pretty sure historically Daniel Jones has carved the fuck out of the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that is fair. But here's my thing. I mean, that's fine. You're talking about just two one person in two games, that's fine. I mean, he's not like a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

The thing that makes you feel good about it is he's not going to be their starting quarterback for probably half the season next year.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

And not only that, it's Daniel Jones, who, like, regardless of what Sam Darnold has done, he's better than like and not only that, I can't sit here and say because Sam Darnold did it, that fucking everybody's gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

No, not everybody's gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

I don't think Daniel Jones is a candidate in that. Now, I do think there is another Jones that can be a candidate to follow the Sam Darnold path. But it's not Daniel, it's Mac.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Yeah, maybe. I'm saying that you saw Daniel Jones for what the first eight weeks of the season.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

I saw Jonathan Taylor fucking eating.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Look, it's a huge part.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

You know what it reminded me of?

SPEAKER_00 30:27

What it reminded me of?

SPEAKER_01 30:28

It reminded me of the year when the Giants went to the playoffs off the back of Saquon Barkley. And Daniel Jones got paid over Sam Saquon Barkley.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

It reminded you a little bit of Ryan Tannehill with Derek Cameron.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Yeah, bro. Yes. Which no, I know, because I think Ryan Tannehill's was better than Daniel Jones. Okay. You just hate Daniel Jones. No, I've just, you just, I mean, no, I've just watched enough of football over my years to say that like Daniel Jones is not good, like a great. He had a career year, but like let's not say he's going on that path with Sam, like that Sam Darnold is on. Well, look. Because guess what? He didn't go to San Francisco and go to fucking quarterback 101.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

He went to quarterback 102 and Kevin O'Connell.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Kevin O'Connell ain't won a playoff game.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Yeah. I'm just letting you know he went to the QB2. He went to Kevin O'Connell.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Kevin O'Connell lost to Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_00 31:25

He did lose to Daniel Jones. That's funny. That's funny. I uh look, that's fine. I'm not saying that he is gonna be Sam Darnold. I'm saying that You like Daniel Jones. I do like Danny Jones. I've always liked Daniel Jones.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yeah, you know, I hate I've part of the reason why I'm not the biggest Daniel Jones guy is when I think of Daniel J Daniel Jones, I think of that one play where he just had that long ass run, a wide open touchdown, and he fell.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

He there was a sniper in the building. Bang! You got him. Good shot.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

And it's just like, bro, you do that, you trash, bro. You're a professional.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

It reminds me of me. It's something I would have done.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Exactly, bro.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

I can't not be a fan of that. Ah, nah, I'm not. Some things, some things you just have to, some things you just have to be a fan of, and that's one of them. Look, enough Daniel Jones. Look, they transition tagged him because they're going to franchise tag Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Nah, I don't think they nah. Alec Pierce is gone. He's in free agency, I think. Is he out? I think they're either like we're trying to they're trying to either re-sign him or or he's going to free agency. Good thing I'm not going to be able to do that. I wouldn't franchise tag Alec Pierce either, bro. That's a b- I'm not paying him a bag. 25 mil is that what I don't think. I think I'm pretty sure the franchise tags more than that. I'm gonna have to look that up. But regardless of what it is, bro, I'm not paying Alec Pierce, dog. Like, I don't know why everybody loves like people are talking about him like he's a deep threat, like prime Tyreek Hill. He is Bro he had 47 catches. He has a good he has a good deep play. They just happen to be for a thousand yards. Yeah. A career. Oh, we love just a how many thousand-yard receivers are out there in the FL?

SPEAKER_00 33:10

I mean a bunch with 17 games.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Right. So you're so so what makes you think you gotta pay one 20 million dollars?

SPEAKER_00 33:18

I don't necessarily think that it would be great to pay.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

And then look, they're gonna if they pay Alec Pierce, they're gonna cut Pittman.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

Yeah, he's gonna go to the Bills. I guess we're gonna have to stop linking everybody to the bills now.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Yeah, can't link really anybody at this point. Now we're gonna have to find somebody else to link everybody to. Shout out Brandon Bean for doing something finally.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Oh man. I hope it don't work out.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

He was listening to We're Not Experts, he just didn't go get somebody we thought he'd go get.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

I hope it don't work out. I did read this thing. I don't know if it's true or not, but they said DJ Moore missed his flight to Buffalo today.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

He didn't want to go.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

And they said that he had a hard time getting out of bed. Man. I don't know how true that is. I hope it's true.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

I mean, I guess a good thing. I mean, you know, going from the Bears to the Bills, you go from Caleb to Josh Allen. It's an upgrade. I wouldn't be mad about it. No. Well, it also, well, you know, it's also better than it could have been. You know, he could have got shipped off to somebody terrible.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

I'm gonna go through, I'm gonna go through something here. Do you think that the Pats cutting Stefan Diggs is one, a big deal? Do you do you feel like that's a big deal?

SPEAKER_01 34:25

I think Stefan Diggs is taking a whole lot of L's.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

It's it's crazy. It's crazy to be as good as Stephon Diggs is and to be as unlikable as Stephanie.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

I don't think there was an issue with him being unlikable.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

I mean I don't know, man. Part of it's I mean, beating up your chefs, that's not cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Yeah. He's a crash out kid. But he didn't do that in the full like I mean, he had good reviews in in the locker room.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Yeah, that's a Mike Frabel thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

He was giving out the YOLA on the boat. Uh-huh. He was. He was doing that. He's a dog. I mean, he took a lot of L's, man. Lost Cardi B, lost the Super Bowl, lost his job. Man.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

Will he get another?

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Will he lose the court case, too? Find out on the next episode of We're Not Expert.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

We should just start covering the court cases.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

There's better be a lot of them.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

We should cover the Rasheed Rice case that's going to be coming up. Another Crash Out King. Terrion Arnold. Terry and Arnold. Hey. Goat move. So I'm not going to do it this episode. I'll do it episode 11. But he's he's absolutely going to be featured on our segment. It's a running segment, but it's the crash out of the year. We'll just go ahead and we'll go ahead and name Terrion Arnold as a nominee. Absolutely. I will gather the full story in this next couple days until we record episode 11, and I will come back fully prepared to read you this Terrion Arnold story. It's crazy. Brief overview. Somebody stole some money from him. They lured the guy in, pistol whipped him. It's crazy. He's absolutely goat. People are going to have to decide for us because it's a crash out of epic proportions.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's uh I respect it, but he didn't, you know, look from the legalities of it, horrible move. But yeah, I I respect it. Uh but we don't gotta get too deep into it, man. More running back news. Looks like Travis ETN's hitting the market.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Yeah, we knew that was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Yeah, you you're not a big ETN guy.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

I don't I like ETN. I I don't know if I would want to sign him on the Titans. I was like, dude, I think K9's probably gonna go to the Broncos. Apparently, the whole reason the Jets ended up franchise tagging uh Brees Hall and not transition tagging him was because the Broncos were gonna make an offer. You were forecasting that. Yeah, I uh Travis Etienne Travis Etienne's would like if he could find his way to the Chiefs would be and uh that would be great for him. Be great for fantasy managers. The NFL should move the draft before free agency.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Wow. Because because you know, I don't know. I I just would rather see the draft before free agency.

SPEAKER_00 37:21

Nah dude, I enjoy the free agency comes first. You know why? Because it allows you to fill the holes that you know you can fill with players that could fit your system. Yeah. And then it allows you to go and draft the players.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Yeah, just you know, I don't know. Because free agency moves impact the draft. I'd rather the draft moves impact the free agency. I guess, yeah. I mean, either way. I'd rather bring in my young guys before the old guys. Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

And then you build the players. Well, it's also like part of the reason, like, you know, it's the same reason that we traded Tavondre Sweat for Jermaine Johnson. Like, it's one of like Solon knows his personality. Yeah. Solon knows this guy, like he knows that he's gonna mesh with what he's trying to do. Yeah, like got the history. Yeah, it's the same thing with free agent signings. A lot of these coaches come in there and they like go and get guys that they know. Yeah, they know their personality, they know they'll fit with these players that they're taking over. Like, it's all Robert Salah's probably doing all him and Dayball and what's my what's the difference? Just happening.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

One big bald meeting of the minds. Yeah. They all get cooking up something famous.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

Rub each other's heads.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Yeah, like they're just like treating each other like they're a crystal ball. They're like looking into the future.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

They're like, all right, look, we're gonna go play 20 questions with every single person on the team. And this is how we're gonna define people's personality types.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

They've already seen the draft, they already they already have their full draft pitch.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

Yeah, and we're gonna draft Jeremiah Love and make him shave his head.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

You know, that was actually gonna be the next thing I talked about. Bog! Bog! He's gotta shave. How do you feel about shaving, buddy? You think they asked him that in the interview? When they met with them, they're like, Look, the coaches got it, they're gonna ask him. The logos got it, they're gonna ask it and you got it.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

They're gonna ask them so they're gonna be like, Have you ever heard of the New York Yankees are my guy? You know about their uh facial hair policy.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

We're doing that, but with the hair on your head.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Yeah. We want you to be real clean cut. Bald heads only. Hair is a distraction. Hair is a distraction. Like, bro, if you have to go get your hairline every Thursday, I know who doesn't. Yeah. Ruben Bain. Seems like a waste of time. You could be thinking about football.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Right. I need somebody who's all in. What were you gonna talk about with Jeremiah Love? He's allegedly been starting to be more heavily linked to the Titans at four.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Yeah, it's it's funny you said we are the as I last saw it, we are the odds on favorite to draft Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

And you know, I've come on here and I've said I wouldn't love it. I wouldn't take him that high.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Has your opinion changed?

SPEAKER_01 40:09

My opinion has changed.

SPEAKER_00 40:11

Yeah. He's gonna be sick.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

He's gonna be good. He's gonna be sick. Like, for me, it's like he's gonna add, he could add a dimension to that offense. And you know, and the the concern you have with like when you're taking a running back and putting him in that position is like you look at what Genty did last year, and you're just like, oh man, the Raiders took Genty that high, and look what he did. But like, you know, part of when you take a running back, you gotta put him in a good infrastructure to succeed. I think I think Jeremiah Love, because it's looking like, I mean, hell, it's looking like Calvin Ridley is still on the roster. I haven't heard any cut news. Like, yeah, I feel like if they were gonna cut him, they would have done it by now.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

Him and Cam Ward also had a good rapport.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

Yeah, but I mean, like if you you got your you're bringing on your young guys, you're linking to all these receivers. You take Jeremiah Love. You know, if you look if if they end up bringing in another receiver, you bring in a Calvin Ridley, you add Jeremiah Love to that, you've got a young quarterback in Cam Ward, I feel like that could work immediately. Like, I feel like he could have a real impact in Nashville immediately. I like what he adds to in the passing game, his speed, you get the explosiveness, and part of things, I feel like part of the things the running backs haven't had is like that level explosiveness. Like we haven't had that kind of running back that was could be just as explosive in the run and in the past game.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah, you know who my comp for Jamaic Love is? Who you think it is?

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Probably I'm gonna say Bijan. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Or Gibbs. It's definitely Bijan. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

They do say that he's the best prospect since Bijan and Gibbs.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

I I I everybody says like Salah said Gibbs, and I think Dave all said Gibbs too.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Yeah, I'm I'm taking Bijan over anybody.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

I just think that I say Bijan, but he's a worse pass catcher than Bijan is.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Yeah. Oh yeah, but Bichon's elite.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

But they're running, like their running style is super similar.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

I think Jeremiah Loves got a little bit more speed.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Yeah, probably so. But the elusiveness, like the they have super similar like elusiveness.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Yeah. Bijan just super.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

It's like they spam, they spam the circle button. Bichon's a cut master. Cut master. He also loves a good spin move. I love Bijan Robinson. Just like, just like, yeah, I bet you do, man. You're a champion. Get the fuck out of here. Fucking loser.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Oh, bro. Okay. So enough about the run. You got more about Jeremiah Love?

SPEAKER_00 42:47

I ain't got shit about nah. I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

Yeah, so you deal. How do you feel? Did you say how you felt about Jeremiah Love at four?

SPEAKER_00 42:53

I I would do it. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

I think taking that over a while.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

I think, you know, I don't I'm not gonna sit over here and be like we're gonna be the Pats of next year, but it I think it gives you a better opportunity to be that. You can lay a little bit more of a foundation. Yeah, I you know, our young talent.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

Like I feel like if you get a young quarterback, I I want a young quarterback and I want to put offensive weapons around him that are also young so that way y'all can grow, like really build this thing.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Chemistry over time, whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

You know, the fan in me that wants to see exciting football is always gonna be more excited about drafting Jeremiah Love over David Bailey.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

And I'm almost willing to just run it with Jeffrey Simmons, Jerr Jermaine Johnson, and Fimi. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

And and well, they're they're saying we're about to sign another former solid player.

SPEAKER_00 43:46

Who? Or not Franklin from the Broncos. Yeah. John Franklin Myers, I believe is his name.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

I think this is gonna be your favorite part of the pod.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

All right. Ryan Clark said something very interesting. Yeah, what a fucking doofus. I'll let you, I'll let you uh Did you see did you see the clip? I didn't see it. I didn't see the clip. Dude, this fucking guy. This fucking guy said that you have a better chance. Like if Kyler Murray was on the Ravens, you would say that they have a better chance to win a Super Bowl than with Lamar.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

Well, I just don't understand what could possibly make him say that.

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Has Kyler Murray ever thrown for 40 touchdowns? No. And four picks?

SPEAKER_01 44:35

Has he ever thrown for 400?

SPEAKER_00 44:36

For 4,000 yards?

SPEAKER_01 44:38

No, I don't think so. And ran for what 800, 900? I can tell you something that I would be willing to bet Kyler Murray does have better than Lamar. What? A Katie spread on cotton. Absolutely. Absolutely. Dude. Nothing that matters? No.

SPEAKER_00 44:58

You know what they call that? Let me tell you what they call that. And you people might not like that. I know a lot of people that like Ryan Clark. I think he's a fucking moron. That is fucking clickbait journalism.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

To say something so fucking blasphemous, they're not even in the same fucking realm.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

I think what makes that even what makes it more disgusting. I res understand it more if like Stephen A. Smith said that shit. But bro, you played football.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Yeah. He is supposed to be the expert.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Bro, you played the game of football. He was supposed to be the expert. And not and not you, and you aren't just like somebody on the team. Like you were a player.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

He was a good player.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Some would say a star.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Yeah. I liked Ryan Clark as a football player. Bro, you played the game. You have all this ball knowledge, and you get on there and you say some shit like that. There's just like it's unbelievable. It almost makes you think that it what?

SPEAKER_00 45:59

They don't they don't have the BK. No. No ball knowledge. What kind of he was just athletic. I don't even understand how you could sit over here and say that.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

Is it because I don't think what does Kyler Murray put on film that has even suggested he's anywhere close to him?

SPEAKER_00 46:18

He's he's had what one great season?

SPEAKER_01 46:21

Yeah, I mean, that was a I mean, great for it.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

They started out with 11 and 0.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Yeah, well, it ain't like he was like an actual, well, I guess he was an MVP candidate at that point, but by the end of the year he wasn't. Right. They were fraudulent. They lost. They were literally the Pittsburgh Steelers team with Big Ben.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

Dude.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

I could not. Nobody believed them all year. They're 11 and 10, 11 and 0, and like everybody's like, yeah, they're they still don't want this.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Did they make the playoffs that year?

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Uh they did make the playoffs. I think they got put out first round. Of course. I believe to the was it the Rams? Was that the year the Rams won the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_00 46:56

I don't even I don't even think that Kyler Murray, like I think Kyler Murray is a decent quarterback.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:03

I don't think Kyler Murray's bad. He's not a scrub, but like I think Kyler Murray could absolutely go somewhere and be good.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

And be a part of a winning organization.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

A Baker Mayfield type character. Like something of that, something of that nature where he goes out, he just gets to the right place with the right coach. Has some success. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

Well, I like Kyle. I mean, you know, he's dynamic still. But I mean, the problem is the problem is are the things that you expect out of drafting somebody like a Kyler Murray, a small quarterback. You would expect injury prone.

SPEAKER_00 47:38

Yeah, addicted to Call of Duty. Maybe still thinks about baseball. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't ever think about baseball.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

You don't think every year when MLB drops, he just makes him a pitcher?

SPEAKER_00 47:51

No, dude. I thought he was a pitcher. Was he? No fucking way. I guess that would make sense, though. Maybe an outfitter.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

He's kind of short for that.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

He was a bum, dude. Right. No, he was a first-round pick. That's fine. That's cute. Just like him on the football field. Pause. Pause. I'm just saying that I it was one of the most unbelievable things I'd ever read. And then when I heard the clip, I just I was like, this can't be real. Like he can't actually feel this way. Right. There's no way that somebody could feel this way. Lamar Jackson was Mark Andrews' drop away from a Super Bowl. Yeah, and even if he made the Super Bowl but didn't win it. I mean, look what that did for Joe Burrow's career.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

And yeah, but well, I people still are like Joe Burrow's, you know, arguably the best quarterback in the NFL.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Yeah, I'm not I'm not one of those. I I would think, I mean, I like Joe Burrow's great and all, but I mean I'm taking Lamar over him. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, this is all off of the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

I mean, maybe a little bit was off of that 5,000 yards.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

It's also the fact that he's a fucking assassin, bro.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

He's a surgeon on the field. He is. But he has a lot of the, you know, it goes back to what's the best ability.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

It's weird that he just had some crazy, like.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

I mean, he told that one ACL that one time. That was on a crazy hit.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

And you know who's been more available? Lamar. He's been more available than both collars.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

He hasn't been he hasn't been super available, though.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

No. I mean, he what he went through what three years of being healthy? He got he got fucked up last year. It happens. It's all right. They wouldn't got Max Crosby. That's that's fair. Yeah. I hope for people that have.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

They're gonna sacrifice T. Higgins again. He's the he's the he's the Cincinnati sacrificer.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Yeah, but the problem with that is the problem with that is they're so much better with T. Higgins on the field.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

You're gonna always got Yosef I.

SPEAKER_00 50:09

They're gonna need T. Higgins to face the hell of the AFC North.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

It's a gauntlet. It's an absolute gauntlet. What if I told you that uh Geno Smith got released?

SPEAKER_01 50:25

I would say that I I think you're sad.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

No, I mean I'm not sad. You're a little upset. He gets a fresh start somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

Who are we linking Geno Smith to? You know, you know, there's only one thing that he can do. And then he can finally write back.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

What?

SPEAKER_01 50:40

He can go back to the New York Jets.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Oh man. Oh God. You don't want to link him there? That would be a great story. Hey, look, you know, we talk a lot of shit. That'd be good news for Garrett Wilson. It's better than Derek Carr. He makes it back again. He's gonna find a way to bring Derek Carr into the Who would you rather have? Would you rather have Geno Smith or Derek Carr? Absolutely. I'm taking Gino every day of the week. I'm taking Geno for real. You want to know who I'm linking Gino to? Yeah. It's not the Jets.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Oh, who is it?

SPEAKER_00 51:14

It's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

You think that'd be good? I mean, he'd get him with a good, like a good offensive mind. He gets his guy back. He could have a Sam Darnold story.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

No, he's at what, 33? No, Gino's older than that. Is he? Yeah, hell yeah, dude. You don't remember Gino Smith back in the day at West Virginia?

SPEAKER_01 51:37

He was sick.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Oh my god. Yeah, but when was that? Like 07?

SPEAKER_01 51:43

Dude, that shit was forever ago. I can confirm it took me long enough to find it. Kyler Murray was an outfielder. He was an outfielder.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

He was a first-round pick. He's got a rocket. Yeah, that's fine. I hope Kyler Murray goes somewhere like Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

He'd have a chance to be a starting quarterback.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

He will be the starting quarterback. Nah, bro. Nine's back. No, he's not. Bro, he he flipped the switch. Matter of fact, since I just said that, I hope Geno Smith finds his way to Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

He's going to go be, no, you know, he's going to have one last ride. It's not going to be next year. It's going to be the year after. He's going to go to the 49ers are going to trade Mac Jones. He's going to go to QB 101 for a year. And then he's going to come back to some random ass team.

unknown 52:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:34

And he's going to have just one last story. He's going to win the Super Bowl. And he's going to he's going to ride off into the sunset. And he's finally like, alright, I'm riding back. And it's not because y'all wrote me off. It's because the story's over.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

If there's a script, all right, hear me out. If there's a script, tell me the perfect script wouldn't be. We'll go with what you said. He goes to San Francisco for a year. He you know, rubs the whatever they rub to make them so great. He does his year, signs with the Jets, takes them to the promised land, rides off into the sunset. The greatest scrit of all the great movies. It'd be a great movie. It would be a yeah, a Disney movie. That's a Disney movie right there. It'd be more like a Tubi movie. He would be He'd be like, you can't blame me anymore.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

Right. Nah.

SPEAKER_00 53:32

If your team won the Super Bowl, you can blame it on me. Man, if your team lost the Super Bowl, you can blame you. You can also blame it on me. I'm I dude, I'm speaking it into existence. Geno Smith to San Francisco. You know, sacrifices whatever they do, a goat, a chicken. They drink snake blood.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

He's gonna be right there in the ring of fire with with Christian McCaffrey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

You know, and then he goes to the, you know, the Atlanta. He goes to the Atlanta Falcons. Tua Tonga Valo has been linked to the Atlanta Falcons. That's crazy. And the Jets. They said, you know what we like more than a quarterback who can't stay healthy? Another quarterback who's also left-handed. And can stay healthy. Dude.

SPEAKER_01 54:26

I mean, they got one functioning brain and two functioning legs.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Yeah, it's fair. Together, if you put them, like if you could combine the two.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

They might play 11 games.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

They might be as good as Geno Smith. I can just sense people are not listening to Geno Smith talk. They heard it and were like, yo, these fucking guys.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

It's your fault, bro. You just like really bad quarterbacks that somehow get a bag.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Dude, it's not that I like really bad quarterbacks that get a bag. I just like guys that go out there and they're think about the generational wealth these guys are being able to consume.

SPEAKER_01 55:10

Just off of one year of quality work.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

Brother, it's it's the American dream Geno Smith is living.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Man. He gets to play a kid game at a very poor level.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

Yeah. And he's at, you know, he's on he's at Friday Night Lights. He's at high school football games talking shit to people. Like, he is for real. Like he's the man.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

He's standing on the podium talking about blame it on me.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

You never seen that video of him in a high school game? He's like, that's why they pay me the big bucks. That's why they pay me the big bucks. Like he is openly bragging to a guy who's probably an electrician. Alright. He's like, that's why rich as fuck. Hey, no, that was that's uh giving me vibes of what is it, was it Joey Bosa to that fan? Oh my god, yes. No, it gives me it gives me it gives me real Blake Bortle vibes.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Blake Bortles.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

You remember that interview he did where the woman asked him, she's like, What's the first thing you do in the morning? He's like, normally I wake up and take a piss. What would you be doing if you weren't playing football? He like, I don't know, probably construction ripping six. Oh, the legend of Blake Bortles. Yeah, man. Great, absolutely great.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

Man, we got one more thing. We got some sad news.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

It is sad news. Big fan. I was a big fan of Lou Holtz. Man, the guy, the guy took Notre Dame to prominence. Something that Marcus Freeman's never gonna be able to do.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

Oh, they got an easier chance at it now that they're guaranteed a spot in the playoffs than in the top 12.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

That's a joke.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

Uh, anyways, man, yeah, I didn't obviously didn't get to live through him being a coach, but I liked him as a person TV personality.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

Absolutely. We we grew up watching him talk a lot of football.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

Man, one of the reasons why I started to enjoy football so much.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

He was great.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Lived a long life, lived a good life.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Touched a lot of people's lives.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

And he was like, he was one of those guys that it didn't matter, like it didn't matter how old he was. Like when he talked, you were just like, man, this motherfucker knows some shit. Man. He was on his shit. So R.I.P. Yeah took the great Lou Holtz. Absolutely. Absolutely. That ends the show on a high note. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Not really a high note. It's kind of sad, but yeah, it's sad. You know, it's it's all good. We're sending our T's and P's to his family. T's and P's, brother. Well, with that being said, guys, make sure as always, you like, share, tell your friends.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

Man, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Eventually, someone will let us know, hey, you should talk about this on the pod.

SPEAKER_00 58:01

Yeah, y'all for not comment. That's a that's a hoe trait. We're just not big enough. That's alright. Look, telling your friends, family, and friends about us is how we can get this thing off the ground. So please.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

We're trying to quit our jobs.

SPEAKER_00 58:20

Click share. The share button's a huge thing, too.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

Man, if it's not your cup of tea, it's somebody you know's cup of tea. I swear. Somebody wants to hear people who have no idea what they're doing. Like, I can talk shit about anything. We just like to do it about football. Yeah. Because that's what gets the people going. I swear. And the final words that we'll have is always remember, guys, that you're unique. Just like everyone else.

SPEAKER_00 58:50

You know what that quote means? It means the elevator to success is broken, brother.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

Gotta take the stairs.

SPEAKER_00 58:57

Gotta take the stairs.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

And we've taken another step, man. Thanks for hanging out with us for 10 episodes.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Come see us for episode 11.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Hey, we got 10 more on the way.

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Crash out. Don't forget, crash out of the year.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

Send your nominee. We've got three right now. Yeah, we got it. It's a tight race.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

Well, I'm gonna fully break down the Terry on Arnold next episode. Can't wait. I'm gonna go into that deep.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

We're gonna start picking up steam, man. We're gonna start picking up steam. We're gonna start putting out more content, more episodes, more everything. We're just gonna keep getting better.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Man, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

And y'all are gonna be here to witness it. We appreciate it, guys. This is episode 10 of We're Not Experts. See y'all on the next one.